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xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Is this the same Grok that started inserting talking points about "white genocide in South Africa" on completely unrelated queries? Even if you wanted some AI chatbot integrated with your chat app (which I personally don't), it feels like Grok is the worst one you could pick.

Wouldn't bullshit white power rants fit right in on telegram?

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Still better and more feature rich than WA.

Indeed, it is undoubtedly advantageous for scammers and malware authors.

One day you will discover Internet and how advantageous it is for scammers and malware authors.

Wtf is this argument even about? Knife is advantageous for robbers. Phone calls are advantageous for scammers.

Your existence is advantageous for many malicious agents.

So what?

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Feels oh so telling that xAI has to pay Telegram and not the other way around. If these offerings were so great wouldn't we all be clamoring for it?

Models are only as good as the data that is fed into them. OpenAI is paying Reddit 70M for access to the data. So the real value here is the conversations, not the model. And in the case of Telegram, you will get very intimate data about people. You know in real time who they are talking to, what they are talking about, etc... Its extremely valuable data

I think this is more the case. xAI is looking for more data to ingest.

I'm not sure how the integration will work with Telegram if the contents are supposed to be "secure". Are you just allowing your conversation to get exfiltrated to xAI? Does the other party you are talking to get a say in that?

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$300m could buy you a hell of a lot of marketing, no? Then people could choose to use your product rather than be forced to. We’re side stepping the elephant in the room: X/xAI/Musk’s brand is toxic and forcing the product onto users is one of few paths available.

It did buy them a hell of a lot of marketing, Telegram has a billion users and those users are mostly in countries where Musk's brand isn't as toxic.

You really believe 1/8th of the world is on telegram?

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It's the next logical step after companies shoving AI into every corner of their own products regardless of whether their users want it - now they're paying other companies to shove AI things into their products regardless of whether their users want it. Genuine user interest doesn't come close to justifying their insane valuations so they have to put their thumb on the scale by shoving it everyones face and then pre…

Well, there's -ai for Google. I do take some grim satisfaction from having Google pay for inference and then ignoring it though.

The models that run the search overview slop are probably some shitty 1B models running as cheaply as possible.

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Feels oh so telling that xAI has to pay Telegram and not the other way around. If these offerings were so great wouldn't we all be clamoring for it?

Models are only as good as the data that is fed into them. OpenAI is paying Reddit 70M for access to the data. So the real value here is the conversations, not the model. And in the case of Telegram, you will get very intimate data about people. You know in real time who they are talking to, what they are talking about, etc... Its extremely valuable data

In certain countries Telegram channels also seem to be a very popular news source.

Just with access to the feeds from X, Grok is already sometimes quite handy for checking some latest developments.

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Sad to say this as a formerly happy user of telegram:

Boy that tracks. The shadiest AI model provider paying the shadiest chat app provider to integrate the racist slop machine into the scam and CSAM distribution machine.

xAI engineers, I genuinely hope you get the bag soon and switch jobs back into a reputable AI lab.

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Feels oh so telling that xAI has to pay Telegram and not the other way around. If these offerings were so great wouldn't we all be clamoring for it?

Time for some no-evidence conspiracy theory: the API-based "AI"s are surveillance vectors, so this is just cover for running all your conversations through a tool to determine which ones to report to which authorities. (while in theory they can be run locally, in practice this is rare)

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Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Feels oh so telling that xAI has to pay Telegram and not the other way around. If these offerings were so great wouldn't we all be clamoring for it?

No matter how good your offering is, you always need marketing if you are competing against an established behemoth in the space like OpenAI. Even Google has been unable to make much of a dent in OpenAI's daily active users despite having superior distribution and (recently) comparable quality. Grok 3 is legitimately one of the best general purpose models out there. People don't know about it because ChatGPT is "good…

Tech fascists have the best ai, great.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Most people have no idea who the CEO of the various tech companies are and don't care.

True, but Musk is an exception. And deliberately so, his media image was one of the things that made Tesla so notable. But we’re seeing recently that it goes both ways.

It's maddening that everyone seems to just overlook the whole neo-Nazi supporter bit.
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