Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

cpb.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

131–140 of 596 posts

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

#131

Post by dboreham »

MurkyLabs wrote: post #16
hadrien01 wrote: post #2

I suppose this is in response to this executive order: ENDING TAXPAYER SUBSIDIZATION OF BIASED MEDIA https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/05/endi... I would add that PBS has this to say about public media funding: > The U.S. is almost literally off the chart for how little we allocate towards our public media. At the federal level, it comes out to a little over $1.50 per person per year. Compare that…

Isn't it crazy that the supposed 'biased media' directly targets PBS who I know from watching children's shows as well as NOVA (it's been going for 51 seasons). These shows don't scream biased to me, they scream educational.

To these people educational is a synonym for biased. They depend on uneducated people and they have a chip on their shoulder from being between somewhat and extremely dumb themselves.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

#132

Post by great_wubwub »

whoknew1122 wrote: post #115
mathgeek wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. It’s important to remember that while the President issues the orders, there are other actors behind the scenes writing them for him. They have goals that go beyond a single man considering ideological crimes.

I'm not sure how important that is to remember. The president is issuing the orders. The president is chief executive of the country. The president can't pawn off responsibility to some White House staffer or think tank. An executive order is the president's order. Is it useful to look at the people who wrote or lobbied for the order? Perhaps if you want to want to understand the context of an order. But none of that…

[flagged]

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

#133

Post by xienze »

throw0101a wrote: post #96
beardedwizard wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a big supporter of NPR but you don't need to look hard to see their progressive bias.

> I'm a big supporter of NPR but you don't need to look hard to see their progressive bias. "Reality has a well known liberal bias." — Stephen Colbert, 2006 White House Correspondents' Dinner, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ-a2KeyCAY&t=4m11s

Well the comedian said it, case closed.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

#134

Post by vel0city »

arcbyte wrote: post #30
bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

I say this as a firm conservative. The courts have so far been outstanding, despite all the inappropriate pressure. I have no doubt they will continue to be. I'm also quite impressed with conservative voters who are speaking out to their conservative representatives. Ultimately though, despite many many calls not to do so, Congress has goven the executive branch unheard of powers. Executive power needs to be reigned…

The courts have so far been exceptionally weak.

Hey, you're not allowed to send those people on the plane! The plane already left even though I told you not to send it? Well, you gotta get them back! You're not sending them back? I'll just keep telling you that you have to do it, that'll really show you!

Oh, pretty please, would you return that man you illegally sent to that torture prison? No? Oh, ok, well would you at least just talk to me about it in daily reports? No? Oh, ok. I guess he'll just die there. Oh well.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

#135

Post by TimorousBestie »

cyberlurker wrote: post #75
next_xibalba wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To wit, during the BLM riots of 2020, NPR published a piece on how looting was a legitimate form of protest. I mark that as the moment they lost both my trust and my attention. A very sad, eye opening moment for me.

If true, that is insane and if presented as factual those involved should be fired. But throwing the baby out with the bath water is not sensible. Oh and to my original point, why is this not cited or linked to in the executive order? I think it would strengthen it if anything.

I can’t be sure but I assume they’re talking about this: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178...

This is an interview with an author that NPR acknowledges as controversial, not NPR presenting the author’s opinions as fact. But I doubt the distinction matters in the current rhetorical environment.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

#136

Post by thesurlydev »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #111
mathgeek wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. It’s important to remember that while the President issues the orders, there are other actors behind the scenes writing them for him. They have goals that go beyond a single man considering ideological crimes.

I'm pretty sure with Trump this time around it is much less the case. In his first admin there are endless stories of the "Adults" in the room keeping him in check. This time around he was sure to only fill his cabinet with yes men, so no one could keep him reigned in.

My thoughts exactly and it makes me truly terrified.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

#137

Post by noitpmeder »

whoknew1122 wrote: post #115
mathgeek wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. It’s important to remember that while the President issues the orders, there are other actors behind the scenes writing them for him. They have goals that go beyond a single man considering ideological crimes.

I'm not sure how important that is to remember. The president is issuing the orders. The president is chief executive of the country. The president can't pawn off responsibility to some White House staffer or think tank. An executive order is the president's order. Is it useful to look at the people who wrote or lobbied for the order? Perhaps if you want to want to understand the context of an order. But none of that…

My view (maybe shared by GP) is that while Trump deserves a lot of the blame, he's just a figure head over the rest of the republican party.

It's not like Trump is sitting on the toilet writing executive orders or tweets. These are initiatives championed by the elite conservative leadership, they just have a convenient "bad guy" that the rest of the country can focus their hatred on.

Don't think for a second that Vance wouldn't continue digging the same holes if Trump dropped dead.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

#138

Post by pjc50 »

UncleMeat wrote: post #54
laborcontract wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the while, I don't think I've ever loved our country as much as now because I think this is a time where our system of checks and balances can come to shine. I do hope this experience will lead to people re-evaluating their love of FDR. You can like what he stood for, but he was an equal if not (much) greater abuser of the executive office.

FDR's major lasting accomplishments that people praise him for were through legislation. Even things like the threat to pack the court would have happened through legislation. There are some highly visible examples of direct executive action that I hope everyone today sees as authoritarian (japanese internment being the really big one). But FDR's expansion of the executive is the opposite of what Trump is doing. Trum…

The long and the short of it is that FDR did (mostly) well-intentioned things with (mostly) good outcomes that were (mostly) widely distributed. That and winning WW2 secured his place in the historical record. But it was definitely a "move fast and break things" approach. The one that conservatives are still very mad about is gold confiscation, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn is a wild over-interpretation of the law to consolidate Federal power.

A lot of very important American freedoms were secured against the public opinion by court cases. That makes them brittle.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

#139

Post by Workaccount2 »

mjevans wrote: post #106
mike_hearn wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PBS would say that. Back here in reality the BBC is trusted by only about 40-44% of the British population, and actively distrusted by around a quarter. The true number who trust it is probably lower, as those polls suffer volunteering bias and other problems that push responses to the left when there's no ground truth to weight to. There's a profound moral problem with forcing people to pay money for media they acti…

In the US the 'press' / media is supposed to be a quasi 4th branch of government (society by the people, for the people). Such organizations are important for the voting public to remain informed and thus elect with an informed choice. ... It would also not surprise me if ~25-35% of the US population 'did not trust PBS / NPR' because they didn't like what they heard and thus preferred to disbelieve the sources.

Unfortunately, the media is put in a position of desperate survival mode with the advent of the attention economy. Which has unsurprisingly lead to the "reality-TV-ification" of TV news, and the lazy "here's-what-is-happening-according-to-twitter-journalism" of print media.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

#140

Post by xienze »

pjc50 wrote: post #95
next_xibalba wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To wit, during the BLM riots of 2020, NPR published a piece on how looting was a legitimate form of protest. I mark that as the moment they lost both my trust and my attention. A very sad, eye opening moment for me.

Ah yes, one piece of free speech justifies deleting the entire station.

I suppose you’d feel the same if Fox News said J6 was a legitimate political protest, right.
Post reply on HN