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Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by pzo »

suraci wrote: post #107
pzo wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I have similar feeling: 1) They try similar like Zuck with LLama make sure GPT or Claude or Gemini is not the real winner in the West world like Android/iOS was for smartphone, Facebook/Whatsapp for social media/IM, Google Search for search, Windows for desktop OS. Majority people get used to to single product and they don't switch often. 2) Trying to kickstart community similar like LLama kickstarted big commun…

They did what they did because everything they want to buy is banned or is to be banned by your government. Or are you being sarcastic? You must be being sarcastic.

I'm not being sarcastic. If that would be the only reason you said then they wouldn't open source it or didn't market for english speaking audience.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by samy_aik »

thekevan wrote: post #119

There's no way I am using a Chinese IDE with VSCode (w/ Coppilot) and Cursor existing after reading the privacy issues in the court documents with TikTok. Bytedance had some extremely overreaching expectations of data it wanted. That being said, I am using (Chinese) Deepseek r1 because there isn't currently a free LLM on par with it. I am careful with what I share though, a little more so than with any others that ar…

I think you are contradicting yourself! Also, why add "China" to a product when you don't attach "America" to the other. If you are thinking politics, fine, else we are in for tech advancement!

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Post by ioulaum »

Aloisius wrote: post #68
cedws wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TikTok was shut down because of clueless bureaucrats and political games, not because of any specific threat. If there was a real risk posed by China why are they idly allowing millions of people to migrate to Xiaohongshu, which is even more strongly controlled by China?

What bureaucrats? It was banned because of a law passed by Congress. Representatives aren't bureaucrats.

It was always BS though. AOC did an interview where she explains (what should be obvious to anyone), that US Gov had no proof whatsoever beyond trying to point at that Chinese law (much like Section 702 in the US), that makes TikTok seem risky.

Except that TikTok isn't legally a Chinese company, and isn't really under their jurisdiction.

Chinese companies like to be under the control of the Chinese government no more than big American companies like to be overly exposed to the US... Thus Apple being based in Ireland and keeping most of their profit outside of the US.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by nicman23 »

softirq wrote: post #30

Side note, but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription. I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. We're truly building walls everywhere.

And you still can. What are you on about.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by ioulaum »

Apparently the target market for this is supposed to be "Chinese coders living abroad".

Thus it supporting English and Chinese languages.

And it may be a competitive step taken after Alibaba launched their new coding assistant.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by shigawire »

cedws wrote: post #72
impulser_ wrote: post #40

Bro the West is getting cooked by China right now. We might be fucked. Everything that has been coming out of China is better than anything our mega trillion dollar corporation are producing and they are doing with with sanctions on the best GPUs. I don't work in big tech, why are they so bad with sigifically more money and more advanced technology? Google had a decade and a half head start and they can't even produc…

This won’t be a popular opinion here on HN but I think it’s the beginning of the end for Western hegemony. Asia is powering full steam ahead while we sit idle. We have much lower social cohesion and it’s getting worse all the time. We’re becoming lower trust societies. We don’t incentivise building enough. Success is considered having enough capital to sit back and generate more capital while contributing nothing bac…

>At the forefront of our politicians’ minds are how many genders there are.

This seems so irrelevant. Why do you think reactionary politics will lead to more innovation?

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by svantana »

handfuloflight wrote: post #75
Barrin92 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription I mean you don't need to if you don't want to. I am gainfully employed as a software developer and what I do everyday is literally just fire up Emacs on my Linux machine and write code. To this day I haven't figured out what llms are supposed to do that a bunch of yasnippets don't. Just like five years ago most of my day is reading and debuggi…

You're definitely limited by how fast you can read and understand.

True, but the jury is still out whether text generators help out with either of those.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by ryang2718 »

thekevan wrote: post #119

There's no way I am using a Chinese IDE with VSCode (w/ Coppilot) and Cursor existing after reading the privacy issues in the court documents with TikTok. Bytedance had some extremely overreaching expectations of data it wanted. That being said, I am using (Chinese) Deepseek r1 because there isn't currently a free LLM on par with it. I am careful with what I share though, a little more so than with any others that ar…

How have you found R1? I've been meaning to try it with Aider's Architect mode.

Have you tried the 7b?

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by ryang2718 »

dartos wrote: post #34
softirq wrote: post #30

Side note, but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription. I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. We're truly building walls everywhere.

Don’t worry. There’s literally nothing an llm can write or tell you that you can’t write yourself or find in a manual somewhere.

Although, tbf, some libraries are documented better than others.

Also, local llms with an agentic tool can be a lot of fun to quickly prototype things. Quality can be hit or miss.

Hopefully the work trickles down to local models long-term.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by sdesol »

softirq wrote: post #30

Side note, but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription. I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. We're truly building walls everywhere.

> world where coding costs a subscription

I think you are approaching this with the wrong mindset. I see it as I'm paying somebody to type and document for me. If you treat LLMs like a power tool, it is very easy to do a cost benefit analysis.

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