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Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Post by krageon »

antonkochubey wrote: post #118
krageon wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's not legal. It's clearly not legal, it doesn't need a case. It's well established in the law as it was written. It's just that the enforcement agencies are large, lazy and won't enforce anything. They don't even enforce when you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt when and how the corporations have leaked your private information, let alone when their use of cookies is illegal.

GDPR enforcement actions are happening quite often in the EU. https://www.enforcementtracker.com

It depends on the country. When I filter for specific countries, it really can be very rare.

Look at the difference between Germany and say Austria, for example. Or if you must compare two large countries Germany and France. There is quite a large gap between different countries.

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Post by orbisvicis »

account42 wrote: post #93
leokennis wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is that some sites will not work until you made a decision in the cookie pop-up. So then I have to reload the page without blocking, reject the cookies, and then reload the page with blocking... So for now I disabled the blocking of cookie pop-ups and I let C-O-M automatically reject cookies for me.

> The issue is that some sites will not work until you made a decision in the cookie pop-up. So then I have to reload the page without blocking, reject the cookies, and then reload the page with blocking... My solution in these cases is to leave the website in question and do something that doesn't involve getting abused.

I've probably done the same thing subconsciously. Are there any well-known websites that behave like this? I'm curious what I've been missing out.

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Post by iMerNibor »

fnordsensei wrote: post #130
sgc wrote: post #66

With how aggressive websites are in shoving popups down our throats for every little random thing, we need an in-browser AI bot to get rid of them appropriately. It's leaking too. I got a popup on my keyboard on my phone yesterday, and literally thought "this is too much, I wish I was dead" (I'm doing fine, just an intrusive thought :). Time to dial it back in folks. It is unbearable.

Or a standard API whereby a user fills out their preferences once in their browser, and the websites ask the browser for this information.

We could do this by sending a header to the website.

What should we call this.. mmh..

"Do Not Track" is a bit long, maybe we just shorten it to DNT?

Nah thats dumb. /s

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/DN...

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Post by marcosdumay »

drdaeman wrote: post #119
sgc wrote: post #66

With how aggressive websites are in shoving popups down our throats for every little random thing, we need an in-browser AI bot to get rid of them appropriately. It's leaking too. I got a popup on my keyboard on my phone yesterday, and literally thought "this is too much, I wish I was dead" (I'm doing fine, just an intrusive thought :). Time to dial it back in folks. It is unbearable.

> we need an in-browser AI bot to get rid of them appropriately. Not just popups. We need browsers to die and be reborn as User Agents again. Currently the best browsers do is some translation and summarization, but there's currently zero automation. An ability to tell user agent a command, in a natural language, like "go through first 10 pages of those Amazon search results, check every one of them including photos,…

We need all of the informatics corporations to die and be reborn as companies that serve their customers.

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Post by marcosdumay »

iwontberude wrote: post #69
sgc wrote: post #66

With how aggressive websites are in shoving popups down our throats for every little random thing, we need an in-browser AI bot to get rid of them appropriately. It's leaking too. I got a popup on my keyboard on my phone yesterday, and literally thought "this is too much, I wish I was dead" (I'm doing fine, just an intrusive thought :). Time to dial it back in folks. It is unbearable.

To those of us with ADHD this firehose of notifications and distractions feels like a deliberate attack on our agency. It does make me feel like I want to die, not because I’m depressed or suicidal generally but because I can’t imagine aging gracefully with this escalating source of entropy.

> feels like a deliberate attack on our agency

It is.

The idea of pushing more contracts than you can read, all of what you must accept just to survive is a deliberate attack on our agency. You are just more sensitive to it.

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Post by quitit »

xelamonster wrote: post #117
mrgreenfur wrote: post #113

Hopefully this is handled in the upcoming eprivacy regulation that intends to move the opt-in choices from individual websites to the browser: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:52...

Sure, if we're really lucky that'll be implemented before 2030 and maybe a handful of us will still be alive to see the day most of the mainstream web actually gets rid of all their obnoxious dialogs :) It is great to see but I'm also happy if we can have even half a solution like this in the meantime.

The entire thing has been performative regulation.

Did asking honest businesses to restrict how they use cookies protect users from invasive tracking? Nope. Data brokers simply employed other methods or bent the "legitimate interest" exception.

Did all websites provide a single button to reject tracking, with equal prominence and proximity to the accept button? Years on this is still rare, despite being the rule.

Did data brokers find new ways to obtain the same data? Sure did and more.

Was the end result a disproportionate burden on users, including those not even in the EU, while not delivering the intended benefit. Sure is.

Do entire websites, particularly those in the USA, simply geo-block all EU countries. Yep.

Did European-based services and news websites switch to a "let us track you or pay now" model. Yes.

Did data brokers exploit the EU's inability to police the matter by incorporating dark patterns, artificial pauses, and obnoxiously long lists to stymmie user's attempts at refusing tracking? Yep.

Did bad actors ignore the regulations. Yep. Was the EU toothless to stop that? Also yes.

So what did happen?

Instead developers of web browsers incorporated anti-fingerprinting technologies to negate the problem, a part of browser development that continues to be an on-going arms race.

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Post by akvadrako »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #129
Macha wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note "I don't care about cookies" and "I still don't care about cookies" will accept tracking if that's the easiest route to get rid of the popup, which is a significant difference to the extension in this topic.

I understand the shortcoming but to be fair, if a website owner wants to track you he can do it even without cookie. I appreciate the gdpr for many reasons but the cookie banner constant spam is not one of them, I believe people just want to get rid of it even if it means agreeing to everything.

It has nothing to do with cookies; the popups are about accepting any form of tracking.

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Post by lolinder »

Macha wrote: post #125
aucisson_masque wrote: post #45

'I still don't care about cookies' works on almsot every website I browse. This extension on the other hand used to work maybe on a third, don't know if it improved but I would suggest the first if you're fed up with the cookie popup.

Note "I don't care about cookies" and "I still don't care about cookies" will accept tracking if that's the easiest route to get rid of the popup, which is a significant difference to the extension in this topic.

Pair it with uBlock Origin and Firefox Enhanced Tracking protection and it doesn't matter.

I don't have a plugin for disabling the banners, but I accept them if that's the easiest thing because I can already see that uBlock Origin blocked all their trackers anyway.

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Post by drdaeman »

marcosdumay wrote: post #134
drdaeman wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we need an in-browser AI bot to get rid of them appropriately. Not just popups. We need browsers to die and be reborn as User Agents again. Currently the best browsers do is some translation and summarization, but there's currently zero automation. An ability to tell user agent a command, in a natural language, like "go through first 10 pages of those Amazon search results, check every one of them including photos,…

We need all of the informatics corporations to die and be reborn as companies that serve their customers.

Well, they surely aren't committing seppuku. No such thing as a corporate honor or shame, only business interests. At least, not with any large corporations.

And this status quo needs to change. Too much power and information disparity at the moment, the markets are essentially broken.

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Post by davidd_1004 »

orbisvicis wrote: post #9

I believe ublock origin blocks these via the annoyances filters, but just the popup element without setting the cookie. I haven't really looked into it.

I think they have a specific list for cookie banners
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