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Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by ilaksh »

ryannielsen wrote: post #124
ilaksh wrote: post #121

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So what if one person agrees with MS, they are a marketing machine. How many years does John Carmack have invested in C++ programming for Windows games?

"Doom was developed on NeXT workstations, under the NEXTSTEP operating system.[6] The Doom game engine was programmed in C, and the editing tools were written in Objective-C. The engine was first compiled with Intel's C compiler for DOS, but later Watcom's C/C++ compiler was used" [1] John Carmack is nothing if non-partisan when it comes to tools and platforms. Most everything he wrote was reasonably cross-platform C…

OK then I mispoke. How many yers has Carmack invested in C based languages?

Point is, he isn't being objective, he is invested in the old way of doing things, but so is everyone else. I should save my breath.

Its the same with everything else in this 'civilization'.

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

ricksta wrote: post #19

Kinda off topic, but Opera Mini and Opera Mobile for Android is vastly superior in terms of smoothness compare to all other available browsers. It is very noticeable especially if the page is heavy. A good test is to load this page http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/internals/howbrowsers... on your Android in different browser and test the responsiveness.

I've been using Opera Mobile for a while now. IMO it does tabs best for tablet browsing - however I've had to switch to Maxthon as Opera was just too unstable on my android device.

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by [deleted] »

ilaksh wrote: post #130
daeken wrote: post #126

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I haven't seen any real-world attacks using WebGL yet; we probably won't for a couple years, since it's still very new technology and there's a lot to learn to be able to do even basic research there. And have you seen them? http://blogs.technet.com/b/srd/archive/2011/06/16/webgl-cons... Let's go over the points together: > Browser support for WebGL directly exposes hardware functionality to the web in a way that we…

"This makes getting your data (legitimate or not) into the lower levels very easy." Bullshit. Completely unsubstantiated. The browsers themselves are what are actually being compromised in reality, Microsoft by far more than others. The WebGL exploits are just theoretical. Every browser vendor is a third party. Big fucking deal, somebody makes your browser or system freeze up.. like that is a new thing that you can't…

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Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by daeken »

justincormack wrote: post #122
daeken wrote: post #89

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For background, I write a lot of WebGL demos, I work for Mozilla on gfx optimizations (WebGL and otherwise) for the Boot2Gecko project. I also worked at Matasano Security previously, doing WebGL security research. As such, I tend to think that I'm pretty unbiased in this regard -- or perhaps biased towards WebGL, since I love it and want to see it everywhere. So with all that said, your characterization of MS's secur…

If the kernel "largely trusts the userspace" then the security model is wrong.

Honestly, the problem is that there is no security model. These drivers were never supposed to be exposed to untrusted code. We have a long way to go before driver vendors pull their heads out of their collective asses and start producing good code, especially since it will most certainly come with steep performance penalties.

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by [deleted] »

ilaksh wrote: post #121
dnissley wrote: post #84

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Is it just FUD though? John Carmack seems to agree with microsoft about the security concerns over exposing graphics drivers to the web. https://twitter.com/#!/ID_AA_Carmack/status/8173219094948659...

So what if one person agrees with MS, they are a marketing machine. How many years does John Carmack have invested in C++ programming for Windows games?

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Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by siodine »

rplnt wrote: post #119
siodine wrote: post #72

For me, the most important missing feature is tab lazy loading -- without that my usecase is impossible (hundreds of tabs).

I only use about hundred tabs (not hundreds) but I find Opera best in this regard - mostly because memory usage, stability (as opposed to chrome) and capability of the UI to handle that many tabs while being usable. The thing is, I don't turn the browser off. Maybe once a month to install Windows updates. There's an ugly workaround though - start Opera without internet connection and then reload tabs as needed.

FF has lazy loading. Options->General->Don't load tabs until selected.

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by alanh »

rplnt wrote: post #118
alanh wrote: post #103

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But it does not look checked, right? One should be checked. Also, clicking it has no (visual) effect (though it will toggle the checked attribute in the DOM). It’s a truly terrible bug, and a strong argument that Opera should not use -webkit- properties like transform until it can actually handle them. I reported it a couple months ago and have not received any follow-up at all.

It is checked and checking it works as well (11.64 at home now). But as other comment pointed out, it looks ugly. I tried FF 9 - same as Opera - works and is ugly. In Chrome 19 it does not work at all (i.e. the checkbox is small). So it got fixed. And I don't think they do follow-up unless they need you to reproduce the bug or something.

Are you on Windows? I eventually tried in Opera 12 and it does not seem to be fixed.

Now I’m not sure why you say it doesn’t work in Chrome at all. Because at least on my platform (OS X), it does, and it looks beautiful and hi-res.

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