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Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by Doctor_Fegg »

aeyes wrote: post #57
germinator wrote: post #20

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They're very cool until it's your apartment or commercial building, and you have to clean it up - because let's face it, for every clever graffiti, there are fifty that are just tags, swear words, or worse. And your framing is odd - can you only dislike one of these things? Graffiti or ads? There are successful movements to rid cities and scenic areas of ads, or to tone them down.

I solved this problem by contracting an artist to put a painting on the wall of my house. Sprayers are artists, they won't paint over it.

If only. The murals under canal bridges in Worcester (UK) have been defaced beyond recognition with tags.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by petre »

GrayShade wrote: post #97
aeyes wrote: post #57

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I solved this problem by contracting an artist to put a painting on the wall of my house. Sprayers are artists, they won't paint over it.

I've seen a lot of tags put on top of pretty nice-looking murals, many sprayers won't care.

Tags always looks better on an empty wall.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by constantcrying »

petre wrote: post #127
constantcrying wrote: post #115

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I have never seen a good looking graffiti which was defacing public property. Granted, I have seen competent images which obviously were commissioned by building owners. All of it was bad art though and immensely displeasing.

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>Are you an art major to be able to judge objectively?

There is precisely nothing about "being an art major" that gives you any more or less right to an opinion. Especially if you actually had read anything about current philosophy of art you would realize how dumb that sounds in this context. Since "postmodern" theories of art focus on the inner expression of the artist, contrasted with the subjective experience of the art by the viewer.

I am the one who has to suffer through this every day in the train. How am I not entitled to an opinion about that "art"?

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by panick21_ »

throwaway4good wrote: post #94

This is an international site and I think people don’t understand just how big Deutsche Bahn’s problems with delays are and how incredible dissatisfied its customers are. The situation with DB is really unique compared to its neighbors in any direction. While the tech described probably has merits, anyone who has been near DB lately would instinctively go: why are you doing this when you cannot get the basics right?

DB is a gigantic organization. Do you think it is reasonable for them not not make progress or advancement in anything as long as the ICE delays are not fixed? They can never change a train interior, improve the food menu, or 1000s of other things? This is a totally unreasonable suggestion.

The reason for DB reliability problem is 50+ years of infrastructure neglect, fixing it will not be improved by shutting down every other group at DB.

Personally having traveled threw Germany many times, its a mostly amazing. Yes sometimes trains are late sometimes, but the trains themselves are great and travel in them is a joy.

I think what Germans don't understand is how good they have it compared to many places in the world.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by xandrius »

umpalumpaaa wrote: post #9
lqet wrote: post #4

> a transparent noise barrier Most rail noise barriers in Germany are completely covered in graffiti [0], so I wouldn't expect them to remain transparent for more than a few weeks. [0] https://ga.de/imgs/93/8/5/9/3/0/9/1/9/tok_8596521c60eeaa53ee...

If you dive into the graffiti scene a bit you will start to appreciate all those graffitis. The story behind some of them is super interesting. There is a lot of "competition", "collaboration", and group dynamics involved. It is truly fascinating. I was living in Cologne (Ehrenfeld) for a while in a place with awesome graffiti and every weekend there were people taking pictures "collecting" and documenting the graffi…

If you only call graffiti the so-called "street art" then yeah but when most are bullshit tags from teenagers in the same cliche style with 0 creativity then it's trash.

And the problem is that 99% of the graffiti in the world is trash tags in stations/trains which has the direct impact of giving a rough feel to any well-meaning location.

So to me, that kind of graffiti is the result of a "me important" mentality which totally disregards the rest of the community who just loses in all fronts (including aesthetics and monetary).

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by yesco »

petre wrote: post #127
constantcrying wrote: post #115

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I have never seen a good looking graffiti which was defacing public property. Granted, I have seen competent images which obviously were commissioned by building owners. All of it was bad art though and immensely displeasing.

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Are you suggesting most people enjoy graffiti? Because I don't know anyone irl who does so I'm a bit surprised by this perspective. I've personally always viewed it as equivalent to littering and assumed the ones doing it were just thrill seekers up until now...

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by flohofwoe »

constantcrying wrote: post #104
umpalumpaaa wrote: post #9

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If you dive into the graffiti scene a bit you will start to appreciate all those graffitis. The story behind some of them is super interesting. There is a lot of "competition", "collaboration", and group dynamics involved. It is truly fascinating. I was living in Cologne (Ehrenfeld) for a while in a place with awesome graffiti and every weekend there were people taking pictures "collecting" and documenting the graffi…

There is exactly nothing about defacing public infrastructure which elicits the tiniest spark of "admiration" or "interest" in me. If you want to live out your "artistic ambitions" do it somewhere away from public property.

Bah, sorry, but most modern concrete buildings do indeed look better with graffity, no matter whether you see it as art or not. Every bit of color helps on those grey/dirty glass and concrete monstrosities.

(the OPs photo is actually a perfect example of that, without graffity it would just be a depressing grey wall, I much prefer the colorful "defaced" version)

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by flohofwoe »

yesco wrote: post #136
petre wrote: post #127

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Are you suggesting most people enjoy graffiti? Because I don't know anyone irl who does so I'm a bit surprised by this perspective. I've personally always viewed it as equivalent to littering and assumed the ones doing it were just thrill seekers up until now...

I do. When I first moved to Berlin I was thinking the same, but now I prefer it when modern concrete buildings are touched up with graffity no matter if commissioned or "illegal" - the important part is to give the eyes something to stumble over.

Historical buildings is a different matter of course.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by smokel »

My hart jumped when I initially thought that they had implemented an idea that I had once.

Turns out MetaWindow is not an augmented reality display in the train's window, where one can read information on the scenery that one passes through while traveling. What is that city in the distance? When was that church built? How many cows are in that meadow? Stuff one has to know.

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