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Is the Job Market Dying?

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Re: Is the Job Market Dying?

#131

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Interesting- what trades did the people who left tech back in the first Dot Com bubble end up going into?

It’s probably mostly temporary, until CEOs decide the “bad economic climate” is over and start hiring again. I know decent former tech company employees who are stocking shelves at Home Depot until hiring picks up.

I'd rather collect $14 an hour on unemployment than earn $18 exacerbating the ageism I'll face when the market picks up.

Re: Is the Job Market Dying?

#132
post #38

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People who didn't put extra effort into a job that wasn't their own is not indicative that they won't for a job that is actually their own.

Unpopular to say, but probably is relatively strongly correlated. Yeah some people will be horrible at a regular job and amazing at a CEO of their own startup job, but I bet the qualities like good time management that make one successful at a regular job are qualities that would make one successful at the other. I’m open to being completely wrong here.

Is this similar to saying that people who did not do well in school are unlikely to do well in life? (Things like time management, focus, dedication will make you a good student).

Re: Is the Job Market Dying?

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post #15

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If you get rejected by the first 5-10 companies you apply to then you need to take a step back and figure out what you are doing wrong, because spamming the same resume to 1000 more companies isn't going to change anything. 5 strong leads is infinitely better than 1000 weak ones.

My company is hiring a senior Python dev and we've rejected at least 95% of applications so far. Many weren't even Python devs, most weren't senior (no, getting that title 2 years out of college doesn't count) and some had resumes so off-putting we just said "this person is full of shit." We actually discussed adding a survey question that read "Answer 'no' to this question" to see if they even read the page. So many…

Python dev to work on what? ;)

Re: Is the Job Market Dying?

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post #15

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If you get rejected by the first 5-10 companies you apply to then you need to take a step back and figure out what you are doing wrong, because spamming the same resume to 1000 more companies isn't going to change anything. 5 strong leads is infinitely better than 1000 weak ones.

My company is hiring a senior Python dev and we've rejected at least 95% of applications so far. Many weren't even Python devs, most weren't senior (no, getting that title 2 years out of college doesn't count) and some had resumes so off-putting we just said "this person is full of shit." We actually discussed adding a survey question that read "Answer 'no' to this question" to see if they even read the page. So many…

I ask people to rename their resume file to follow a very specific filename template. Maybe 1/3 of the applicants do it and I think I have had more luck with them than with those who ignored my instructions. (It is a simple template and as long as folks at least try to follow it, it is fine with me.)

Re: Is the Job Market Dying?

#135

Did this post get removed? Why? Isn't this an important topic for the community right now?

No, it is clickbait, also as someone said, it’s a BUNCH of text but not saying anything new or insightful actually. Just sophisticated, pretentious blathering to put it kindly

Re: Is the Job Market Dying?

#136

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I disagree with #1. Not entirely but it is about perception. Working an extra 10-20 hrs a week for free in return for a chance but no guarantee of a vouch is in itself a bad deal. So while you may have reasons for working long hours, hoping someone has your back is not a great one. Unless you have known them since you were 8 or something and even then.

If you have a job and they are hiring. Two former colleagues come in. Bob: he comes in, he does his work, he goes home. He's a good productive developer. Jane: She comes in, does her work, it's always documented and well tested. She is happy to roll up her sleeves and help the people around her out. She will pause to help you even if it means she gonna finish up at home. Your boss asks you: Your call who do we hire.…

This is not nearly as clear cut. In the real world, Jane has a much higher chance to burn out. Or mess up the team, as everyone now wonders if working long hours is Jane's peculiarity or the new normal. And if this makes people explore other options you always lose the best folks -- those who have opportunities in any market.

While I would agree with a softer form: "don't be a 9 to 5 clerk, do what is needed, including occasional long hours and weekends", if someone needs to regularly stay late it's a problem with the management, not with the Bob. My 2c.

Re: Is the Job Market Dying?

#137

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I disagree with #1. Not entirely but it is about perception. Working an extra 10-20 hrs a week for free in return for a chance but no guarantee of a vouch is in itself a bad deal. So while you may have reasons for working long hours, hoping someone has your back is not a great one. Unless you have known them since you were 8 or something and even then.

If you have a job and they are hiring. Two former colleagues come in. Bob: he comes in, he does his work, he goes home. He's a good productive developer. Jane: She comes in, does her work, it's always documented and well tested. She is happy to roll up her sleeves and help the people around her out. She will pause to help you even if it means she gonna finish up at home. Your boss asks you: Your call who do we hire.…

Where do you draw the line in not being exploitable though? Why wouldn't you hire someone who does all your work for you then it feels like the next question is. When there's a scarcity in job openinings compared to applicants, sure one of those might be chosen, but in a regular job market I feel like both should get hired.

Re: Is the Job Market Dying?

#138
I was laid off in January due to my job being outsourced overseas after I built the product. My job search has been terrible. Unfortunately my network is very small since I was in my first job after switching from a previous career in accounting. It feels crazy being able to provide results but not have any options. The market is incredibly conservative.

I’ve ended up deciding to attend recurse center in the meantime and see where things are in a few months.

Re: Is the Job Market Dying?

#139
post #8

No, it is not. For those of you who are new here (aka didn't live through the 2000 bubble) welcome to a shitty job market. 1. Your best bet to get a job is your network. If you were a clock puncher, if you didn't go above and beyond, if you aren't the person who is gonna make the co-worker who vouches for you look good... you are not gonna get much help in your network. 2. The next best bet is to either a) start your…

> For those of you who are new here (aka didn't live through the 2000 bubble) welcome to a shitty job market.

But is the job market actually shitty? I still get plenty of recruiter spam on LinkedIn.

Re: Is the Job Market Dying?

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post #90

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I sympathize with your perspective, when most programmers were really nerds was a magical time. I do wonder if we are indulging in an “eternal September” mindset though.

I have been theorizing that they all get FAANG jobs now. Free everything, stock options, good pay.... Crush the competition before it gets its feet under it. It isnt that we dont have as many nerds, they are all just "locked up".

I used to work at Google (and even Facebook for a very short time). They ain't what they used to be.
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