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Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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> you will no longer be able to watch any of your previously purchased Discovery content and the content will be removed Content you purchased. Their wording. Not content you rented, not license you paid for. They are effectively stealing the content you purchased.

You don't actually "purchase" physical media. It's still licensed. The question for digital purchases is how perpetual the license is. This is different from Spotify and Netflix where you clearly are renting it, and there's no confusion over that.

Is the purchase of physical media actually license?

Clearly there are restrictions to what you can do with it (duplication, public performance, and so forth), but those restrictions are defined by copyright law. The notable exception is software, but it could be argued that licenses were a product of the need to duplicate software (e.g. install it to a hard drive). That said, modern software licenses do go far beyond that.

Then again, I may be misinterpreting the meaning of license. I have always views them as modifications to the rights granted by copyright law.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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post #22

If you want to really own something, buy physical media. Simple as.

I just pirate. I'll stop when my rights are respected, promise.

Why can't you do both? I own several DVD sets of TV shows I like because I want to support what little physical media is being released these days. I don't subscribe to any streaming service whatsoever, so I can use that money to only support what I want.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Proud pirate, I buy some games occasionally, do not have Netshits or any other streaming service and for sure not buying a stupid console to have to play to be able to play online. God forbid buying videos on an P$ story. The fact that these dumb console people get lured into paying monthly just to play games online shows they do not deserve better. I would be unthinkable to pay to play a game online on PC, with some eceptions like WOW.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then selling it was fraud, surely. I'm not a lawyer, but I've never understood how these online storefronts haven't been sued out of existence for claiming that you can "buy" something when they clearly mean something more akin to "leasing access to it until they feel like it".

Wake me up when Sony executives serve hard time for federal fraud charges. I’m afraid there is no justice for citizens victimized by the ownership class.

It’s almost always only financial and rarely significant enough to be meaning to the company at hand, to which it often gets lowered even further on appeal more often than not

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

#135
post #75

Piracy is morally justifiable if this is the alternative.

Piracy is a complex topic, no need to reduce it into black/white trivial one.

Say you grew up as poor (90% of the world easily) and buying 1 original music CD equals to a week of net salary of your hard working parents just routed to that. This was the situation of me and all my peers when I was growing up. There was simply not an option to buy it legally, unless you accepted to go few days in full hunger mode (which folks think is easy until you are actually there and would literally kill people for food, our mind is really interesting and often very rational place).

So you either pirate or have nothing. Nothing was stolen with creating a copy since those money would never go to copyright owners. Now imagine computer game would require 2 or 3 weeks of similar sacrifice. Again, my choldhood/teenage years. On top of the fact you sometimes can't even buy it legally unless you commit to serious travel.

Yeah, I could go on for a very long time, just my own experiences, not even involving the simple fact that in many places including my current one downloading is completely legal and laws are very much OK with that. If I ever wanted to support artists I would send them money directly, there is always a way if one is serious enough.

But rich western kids want to do visible poses on trivialized topics and 'statements' to their peers even though its long term in vain and zero sum game, not wonder about deeper stuff and actually act upon it (with respect to exceptions).

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

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post #5

> you will no longer be able to watch any of your previously purchased Discovery content and the content will be removed Content you purchased. Their wording. Not content you rented, not license you paid for. They are effectively stealing the content you purchased.

You don't actually "purchase" physical media. It's still licensed. The question for digital purchases is how perpetual the license is. This is different from Spotify and Netflix where you clearly are renting it, and there's no confusion over that.

Buying a book is just that a purchase. Copyright only applies when a copy is being made, thus no license is needed or implied. You can read it and then sell the physical book because you’re not making physical copies, but you can’t read it to a large audience because that requires a specific license.

Buying a physical CD or an action figure of some copyrighted character follows that same principle, the wishes of the original publisher becomes irrelevant until copyright applies. So you can for example take family photos of your kid holding that Barbie without issue, even make copies of it and back it up to the cloud with no problem.

TLDR; To say a license exists implies some additional privilege, but that’s simply not the case here.

Re: Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content

#140

I’ve noticed something strange on my iTunes account recently - missing tv shows I absolutely remember buying at one point, but nowhere to be seen now. One I remember is “Adventure Time”. Just now searched my email and found receipts from iTunes Store for “Adventure Time Vol 1” dated 22 Nov 2013. I see receipts for the other seasons of the show too, they were not rentals as far as I’m aware. Then sometime in last few…

Contact their support? I'd love to know what they say.

I contacted support about a missing TV show and they apologised and gave 5 free rentals.
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