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Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

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Remember what they did to Naomi Wu (aka. SexyCyborg / https://www.youtube.com/@Naomi-Wu ). Vice's behaviour was unethical at best and Naomi - who is a wonderful tech content creator - got into significant trouble putting her business at serious risk. Why would you do that as a "journalist"? https://medium.com/@therealsexycyborg/shenzhen-tech-girl-nao...

That's a long read, can you provide a summary? I've never heard about this.

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Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

#132
post #70

Remember what they did to Naomi Wu (aka. SexyCyborg / https://www.youtube.com/@Naomi-Wu ). Vice's behaviour was unethical at best and Naomi - who is a wonderful tech content creator - got into significant trouble putting her business at serious risk. Why would you do that as a "journalist"? https://medium.com/@therealsexycyborg/shenzhen-tech-girl-nao...

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Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

#133
post #70

Remember what they did to Naomi Wu (aka. SexyCyborg / https://www.youtube.com/@Naomi-Wu ). Vice's behaviour was unethical at best and Naomi - who is a wonderful tech content creator - got into significant trouble putting her business at serious risk. Why would you do that as a "journalist"? https://medium.com/@therealsexycyborg/shenzhen-tech-girl-nao...

That's a long read, can you provide a summary? I've never heard about this.

Apparently, she spent some days with Vice journalists and showed them around for an article, believing due to some documents they'd sent that they would not inquire or publish anything about her personal relationships, and when they were back they started asking about some Reddit theories about her marriage status. She implies that kind of publicity into her private affairs is incredibly dangerous to her life and can't even specify why without exposing herself to that danger, so she immediately attempted to find out and stop what Vice was going to publish without any luck. This snowballed into a long online fight where major name journalists would tweet at her but not reply to her, making her feel desperate and leading to the Medium posts compiling a bit of her story during all this.

Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

#134

When Vice's quality went down, did any other independent journalists step into the breach? There are plenty of good analysis channels on YouTube, but I mean actually going into (e.g.) a warzone and reporting from the ground.

Vice's quality went down almost immediately, so there was no breech to fill. Certainly not a breach in independent media, because Vice was invested in by the same array of creeps and ex-generals as everyone else; they were an attempt to sell empire to the hipster children of rich suburbanites who moved to New York for graduate school. Vice started as a reasonable imitation of Journeyman Pictures [ https://www.journey…

Username what it says on the tin!

Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

#135
post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A 6th grader should NOT, under any circumstances, be taught how to give a blow job by a 400lb man in a dress. Can you show one instance of this actually happening? I'm not aware of any and what does get banned seems to be a pretty far cry from that sort of thing. Honestly, this registers as more of a pretext than a legitimate concern.

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You have to choose something that isn't imaginary for it to count, I think.

Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

#136
post #118

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The core problem is that people don't want to pay for news. You can see this right here on HN. Just submit a paywalled article and the top comment will be a link to the archive.org version.

I paid for the news before i.e NYT. only for them to take a political stance and discredit Bernie for their favorite candidate Hillary. and even, then if you pay - are you gonna log in everytime before you read an article. cancelling subscriptions is a pain for some of these media things I prefer the guardian approach - where they ask for a donation. then yearly I put something towards that. yeah their revenue number…

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#137
post #95
post #91

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I want to pay for news. I just don't want to pay for every news platform there is on this world, searately, because some manager somewhere decides that this will push the brand (same applies for movies, songs, etc) (not to go against your argument, I'm just elaborating on it)

That’s how we used to pay for newspapers though. Cable companies use bundling instead and you get a lot of crap that you don’t need but they price discriminate you into.

You could also hand the newspaper to a friend if you wanted to show them an article.

The modern equivalent is sending someone a link, which won't work so well.

Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

#138

Some years ago they had a large audience, me included, who got great value out of their investigative journalism. At some point they started pivoting into some weird form of advocacy journalism and clickbait garbage, alienating their existing audience, and apparently failing to find a new one. Good riddance.

I think they've been doing more than fine work recently. Look specifically at their VICE News page:

https://www.youtube.com/@VICENews/videos

Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

#139
post #70

Remember what they did to Naomi Wu (aka. SexyCyborg / https://www.youtube.com/@Naomi-Wu ). Vice's behaviour was unethical at best and Naomi - who is a wonderful tech content creator - got into significant trouble putting her business at serious risk. Why would you do that as a "journalist"? https://medium.com/@therealsexycyborg/shenzhen-tech-girl-nao...

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Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

#140

When Vice's quality went down, did any other independent journalists step into the breach? There are plenty of good analysis channels on YouTube, but I mean actually going into (e.g.) a warzone and reporting from the ground.

Vice's quality went down almost immediately, so there was no breech to fill. Certainly not a breach in independent media, because Vice was invested in by the same array of creeps and ex-generals as everyone else; they were an attempt to sell empire to the hipster children of rich suburbanites who moved to New York for graduate school. Vice started as a reasonable imitation of Journeyman Pictures [ https://www.journey…

>creeps and ex-generals

You mean spooks and ex-generals?

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