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Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

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Post by keyle »

lynx23 wrote: post #68
keyle wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry but they do get it done, just look at your mother. It's silly to silo roles based on sex. Embrace the differences, you'll live a much happier life, rather than being sold the idea of segregation based on anything. Segregation sells clicks, it sells views, it sells ideas. As for entertainment, it's entertainment. If you're referring to women remakes of films, it's not my cup of tea either, it doesn't mean th…

Mentioning my mother in this context is as counter-productive as possible. In fact, if it were not for my mother, I would give women a bit more slack.

I'm sorry to hear that. Apologies.

Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

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Post by hutzlibu »

lynx23 wrote: post #68
keyle wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry but they do get it done, just look at your mother. It's silly to silo roles based on sex. Embrace the differences, you'll live a much happier life, rather than being sold the idea of segregation based on anything. Segregation sells clicks, it sells views, it sells ideas. As for entertainment, it's entertainment. If you're referring to women remakes of films, it's not my cup of tea either, it doesn't mean th…

Mentioning my mother in this context is as counter-productive as possible. In fact, if it were not for my mother, I would give women a bit more slack.

Whatever your mother did or didn't do to you, she gave birth to you. That is already something big.

Would you rather her have not done this for you?

Destroying is easy, creating is hard.

(and raising a child in this world is as well)

"if it were not for my mother, I would give women a bit more slack."

And whatever happened, you are saying clearly, that because of one women, you see all women less. Maybe that's not fair?

Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

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Post by criddell »

chmod775 wrote: post #79
criddell wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Some years ago they had a large audience Were the numbers good though? Was it sustainable?

Not long ago things were looking great: > 2012 revenue of $175 million, 2014(e) revenue of $500 million, 2016(e) revenue of $1 billion(!) > "[P]rofit margins targeted to widen to 50% of sales from 34% now" https://www.forbes.com/sites/pascalemmanuelgobry/2014/03/31/...

I had to take a look and those estimates were wildly optimistic.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/06/inside-vice-media-sh...

Near the end is this:

> But the underlying driver of Vice’s success has always been the close connection between its editorial work and its work for brands.

I’m not sure their great investigative journalism was ever self-sustaining.

Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

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Post by IIAOPSW »

sorokod wrote: post #17

Some of their reports were remarkable, for example "The Cannibal Warlords of Liberia" [1] - that takes courage. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuSS0iiFyo

or, watching that lanky white boy go deep into the Amazon chasing a frog to get high.

Re: Vice files for Bankruptcy

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Post by booleandilemma »

chmod775 wrote: post #31

Some years ago they had a large audience, me included, who got great value out of their investigative journalism. At some point they started pivoting into some weird form of advocacy journalism and clickbait garbage, alienating their existing audience, and apparently failing to find a new one. Good riddance.

The core problem is that people don't want to pay for news.

You can see this right here on HN. Just submit a paywalled article and the top comment will be a link to the archive.org version.

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