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The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by DennisP »

LapsangGuzzler wrote: post #60
DennisP wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They didn't design it that way for giggles. They did it because it's much cheaper to build that way, which helps make up for batteries being so expensive.

Do you have a source for this? I don’t see the cost-savings in a stainless-steel paneled vehicle like this. Not to mention that if does dent, you’ll have a harder time popping it out. Also since it’s Tesla, you’re gonna have to see a certified repair shop for it. Idk this just feels like an internet rumor, I’d love to read something substantial on how the manufacturing process is cheaper.

There was a lot of talk about that several years ago, but I couldn't find the specific article I was thinking of, which went into a lot of detail. But there were a lot of articles referencing analysis by Sandy Munro, which apparently is mostly on video. Here's one: https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-cybertruck-engineer...

Also found this: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-secret-production...

> there is no need for Tesla to invest in casting machines for the vehicle. Its steel exoskeleton also means that Tesla will not be setting up expensive paint machinery for the all-electric pickup...even the Cybertruck’s glass, which are flat as opposed to the curved ones used in other Teslas like the Model 3, will likely give Tesla some savings as well.

And there's this, which describes how the shape of the truck adds strength and hence weight savings: https://medium.com/throughdesign/why-is-the-tesla-cybertruck...

And this looks like it covers similar material: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2nSIDv29HE

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by bottlepalm »

xracy wrote: post #117
bottlepalm wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see so a vaporware product and a product with immense resources going into it, but not yet released are equal in your eyes. You remind me of the people who laughed about reusable rockets, starlink, private crew, and every tesla model. They laugh right up to the point it is released, and then they move the goal posts to the next product.

Speaking of moving goalposts... What about the hyperloop? Was supposed to be a vacuum-sealed tube with driverless pods that go 600 mph. -> tunnel with driverless cars that go 60mph -> tunnel with driver cars that go 30 mph... for a bit... until they hit traffic. Edit: How do you feel about the California High-Speed-Rail Project?

It’s very strange how anti innovation people are here on hacker news. Tesla does a lot of things, they’re not all going to be winners, why hold that against them, instead of celebrating their drive to do new ideas and not just what’s safe.

They built a test hyper loop in California, boring company is actively building in Vegas and hardware to hold pressure in a tunnel was tested in Texas. It’s not like they say things and don’t follow up. Maybe it doesn’t happen at the speed you like, but there is a plan being executed on slowly but surely.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by dingosity »

asynchronous wrote: post #32
at-fates-hands wrote: post #25

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>> I wouldn’t buy a normal truck, but a cybertruck is my dream vehicle. Honest question. What is it that makes it your dream vehicle?

It’s just cool. Feel like nobody has any creativity or originality in the car market since the 60s and Tesla is the only one driving it.

Getting the government to subsidize their manufacturing operations is the oldest (and most un-original) move in the auto manufacturing game.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by bottlepalm »

xracy wrote: post #123
bottlepalm wrote: post #77

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I can't hear you over all the things being accomplished https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5QXreqOrTA

Wow, he did it. First manned flight to space.[1] err. First Private manned flight to space. [2] Err, First completely private crew to go to space... Is that actually something we're considering a first? Can you really tell the difference between a person who works for the gov't and a person who doesn't well enough for that to be meaningful? If you have to explain in the accolade what it means, then it's not much of a…

Who cares about first of anything. It’s all about operationalization.

Dragon and Dragon 2 are rediculously successful programs that most people said was not possible. Most notably Boeing which is years behind sending crew to orbit even though receiving billions more from NASA.

US astronauts would be depending on Russia right now to get to the ISS if not for SpaceX. Which means in this political climate there’s the good chance the IIS would be dead right now.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by matthewdgreen »

asynchronous wrote: post #36
bottlepalm wrote: post #12

Not existing? They built an entire factory for it in Texas, is in going through crash testing, qualification, and the truck is regularly seen on test runs around their offices. This just seems like a lazy hit piece with little actual information even though there is a lot out there if you actually follow the development. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy19pEVs1M

All the media writes is hit pieces on Tesla. They’re an easy target without a PR department, after all.

Then they should hire a damn PR department.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by dingosity »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #121
nostromo wrote: post #66

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If you care about getting things done more than fitting in, the Cybertruck actually looks like a much better work truck than a relatively delicate F150.

Yeah, seems like it'll handle the accumulation of loading/unloading mishaps pretty well with the stainless body.

So I could buy one Cybertruck or two Ford Mavericks for the same money. I'm going with the two mavericks. When one of them wears out I'll start using the other one.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by dingosity »

oh_sigh wrote: post #33
jimnotgym wrote: post #17

The cyber truck is such a miss. If they had built a normal truck, but electric, they could have tapped a huge market. Instead they went super niche with the sci fi truck. I hope for Tesla's sake that Tesla have enough fanboys.

Is there any indication that the Cybertruck is delayed for reasons related to its unique aesthetics? Why would a new truck that is normal looking be easier to build than the cybertruck?

I believe it is being delayed so the company's founder can spend more time getting high.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by dingosity »

nashashmi wrote: post #44

This is incredibly messed up. If I'm a shareholder with a conscience against alcohol and beer, this goes against every nerve in my body. It's like Tesla announcing hemp CBD smoke vapor. Since when did I agree to become a drug dealer? Or a black water vendor?

Since you gave money to Elon Musk.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by klyrs »

slashdev wrote: post #90
klyrs wrote: post #54

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I've owned cars for almost 30 years and I have never once "maintained" my paint. Where do you live that this is a thing?

I envy you. My new car is only months old and I’m already having to pay to pop out dents and touch up paint. Careless people parking next to me.

I forgot, truck ownership didn't used to overlap with image-consciousness.

But we all saw the cannonball demo, didn't we? Do you really think the body is going to be invincible?

I, for one, look forward to testing cybertruck body panels when they park too close to me.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by klyrs »

bottlepalm wrote: post #132
xracy wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking of moving goalposts... What about the hyperloop? Was supposed to be a vacuum-sealed tube with driverless pods that go 600 mph. -> tunnel with driverless cars that go 60mph -> tunnel with driver cars that go 30 mph... for a bit... until they hit traffic. Edit: How do you feel about the California High-Speed-Rail Project?

It’s very strange how anti innovation people are here on hacker news. Tesla does a lot of things, they’re not all going to be winners, why hold that against them, instead of celebrating their drive to do new ideas and not just what’s safe. They built a test hyper loop in California, boring company is actively building in Vegas and hardware to hold pressure in a tunnel was tested in Texas. It’s not like they say thing…

Don't mistake anti-hype with anti-innovation. Folks at HN are wary of people who promise long and deliver short.
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