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The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by toomuchtodo »

threeseed wrote: post #27
marcosdumay wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many US SUVs can not be sold globally. If they make a "normal" one, they will have the same problem. Car manufacturers don't need to sell the same model everywhere anyway. Regional markets are large enough to absorb a full model's production.

And yet Porsche, Range Rover, Rivian etc manage to sell the same cars globally. I'm not a rocket science/engineering/business genius like Musk but pretty sure having one design that may require some minor regional modifications is going to be significantly cheaper than having two completely different cars.

Porsche (~300k units/year) and Range Rover (~90k units/year) are niche brands, Rivian isn't even profitable and a volume manufacturer. Conversely, the Model Y was the US' 6th best selling vehicle last year [1], is currently the 4th best selling vehicle in 2023, and will likely the world's best selling car in 2023 [2] based on demand and supply forecasts.

[1] https://insideevs.com/news/629993/tesla-model-y-6th-bestsell...

[2] https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1177/tesla-model-y-set-to-...

> According to a report from Focus to Move, the Model Y is now the fourth best-selling vehicle worldwide after an astonishing 88 percent jump from 2021 to 2022. There were 759,000 Model Ys sold last year, just 28,000 units behind the third-place Ford F-150 which has been the best-selling truck for the previous 46 years. Toyota claimed the top two spots, with the RAV4 at 870,000 and the Corolla selling 1.12 million.

(waiting on my cybertruck)

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by asynchronous »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #25
slashdev wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The number of cybertruck reservations say otherwise. It’s riskier, yes, but might payoff. I wouldn’t buy a normal truck, but a cybertruck is my dream vehicle. I’d rather own that than anything else, even if money was no object. And I’m far from a Tesla fanboy.

>> I wouldn’t buy a normal truck, but a cybertruck is my dream vehicle. Honest question. What is it that makes it your dream vehicle?

It’s just cool. Feel like nobody has any creativity or originality in the car market since the 60s and Tesla is the only one driving it.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by oh_sigh »

jimnotgym wrote: post #17

The cyber truck is such a miss. If they had built a normal truck, but electric, they could have tapped a huge market. Instead they went super niche with the sci fi truck. I hope for Tesla's sake that Tesla have enough fanboys.

Is there any indication that the Cybertruck is delayed for reasons related to its unique aesthetics? Why would a new truck that is normal looking be easier to build than the cybertruck?

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by asynchronous »

jimnotgym wrote: post #17

The cyber truck is such a miss. If they had built a normal truck, but electric, they could have tapped a huge market. Instead they went super niche with the sci fi truck. I hope for Tesla's sake that Tesla have enough fanboys.

Yeah if it didn’t already have a ridiculous number of reservations proving you wrong you might have a point.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by timeon »

marcosdumay wrote: post #23
threeseed wrote: post #13

Tesla needs to fire Musk, abandon the childish and already dated Cybertruck and just build a normal truck/SUV. One that can compete with popular offerings from Rivian, Ford etc. and soon to be Porsche, RangeRover etc. And that can be easily sold globally unlike Cybertruck which has concerns from Australian regulators (and likely others) about whether it would be street legal given its unique sharp metal corners at ch…

Many US SUVs can not be sold globally. If they make a "normal" one, they will have the same problem. Car manufacturers don't need to sell the same model everywhere anyway. Regional markets are large enough to absorb a full model's production.

Is there a point to sell 'trucks' globally?

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by asynchronous »

bottlepalm wrote: post #12

Not existing? They built an entire factory for it in Texas, is in going through crash testing, qualification, and the truck is regularly seen on test runs around their offices. This just seems like a lazy hit piece with little actual information even though there is a lot out there if you actually follow the development. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy19pEVs1M

All the media writes is hit pieces on Tesla. They’re an easy target without a PR department, after all.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by nashashmi »

slashdev wrote: post #30
at-fates-hands wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> I wouldn’t buy a normal truck, but a cybertruck is my dream vehicle. Honest question. What is it that makes it your dream vehicle?

Large, extremely safe, no paint to maintain, no body that gets easily dented, impact resistant glass, electric, high performance, long range, great torque and acceleration, can haul stuff, can fit a family, can be used in a pinch for power, and looks awesome. And maybe the self driving stuff will turn out to be useful too. Too soon to say. Electric vehicles are coming much more slowly where I am and they cost 1.5-2x…

All of those nifty features are replicable by any other manufacturer.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by Symbiote »

slashdev wrote: post #30
at-fates-hands wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> I wouldn’t buy a normal truck, but a cybertruck is my dream vehicle. Honest question. What is it that makes it your dream vehicle?

Large, extremely safe, no paint to maintain, no body that gets easily dented, impact resistant glass, electric, high performance, long range, great torque and acceleration, can haul stuff, can fit a family, can be used in a pinch for power, and looks awesome. And maybe the self driving stuff will turn out to be useful too. Too soon to say. Electric vehicles are coming much more slowly where I am and they cost 1.5-2x…

It's extremely unsafe. The design is illegal in at least the European Union, UK and Australia.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by slaw »

jimnotgym wrote: post #17

The cyber truck is such a miss. If they had built a normal truck, but electric, they could have tapped a huge market. Instead they went super niche with the sci fi truck. I hope for Tesla's sake that Tesla have enough fanboys.

A lot of people, including me, would buy Cybertruck for advertised price $39,900.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by matthewdgreen »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #31
threeseed wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet Porsche, Range Rover, Rivian etc manage to sell the same cars globally. I'm not a rocket science/engineering/business genius like Musk but pretty sure having one design that may require some minor regional modifications is going to be significantly cheaper than having two completely different cars.

Porsche (~300k units/year) and Range Rover (~90k units/year) are niche brands, Rivian isn't even profitable and a volume manufacturer. Conversely, the Model Y was the US' 6th best selling vehicle last year [1], is currently the 4th best selling vehicle in 2023, and will likely the world's best selling car in 2023 [2] based on demand and supply forecasts. [1] https://insideevs.com/news/629993/tesla-model-y-6th-bestsel…

The Model Y has a very conventional style, so the fact that it sells well would seem to be a point in favor of the GP’s argument. It also sells in many continents, which Cybertruck might not be able to do.
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