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Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Post by mcculley »

mattgreenrocks wrote: post #118
ladberg wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For anyone wondering, Trader Joe's sells these in the US! They're great, and they're "real" Bamba and not a TJ's replica.

Yep. We used that with our kid and he seems to have avoided peanut allergy. It also tastes pretty good! But, it didn't stop him from developing a walnut/pecan allergy. Probably because we don't really eat either of those in our house.

As someone who loves walnuts and pecans, I find this tragic. I had no idea that was a possible outcome. Sorry to hear that. I will advise new parents to investigate.

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Post by dghughes »

throwaway12245 wrote: post #121
brewdad wrote: post #100

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The palm oil is less than ideal but this isn't exactly health food to begin with.

>palm oil is less than ideal Why do you say this? Just curious. Palm oil is one of the better plant oils, no?

Massive harm of the environment by companies that farm it. Orangutans' habitat for one.

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Post by raverbashing »

mrpopo wrote: post #46
raverbashing wrote: post #7

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Exactly How in tarnation did anyone think keeping babies away from the allergens would help with allergies is beyond me Which countries has the least amount of peanut allergies? Countries where people give it without much concern Thanks to these misguided though there are people severely allergic to peanuts

Not saying that you're wrong, but your line of reasoning is incorrect. It could also have been because all the people with peanut allergies have died and the people surviving all have some sort of genetic advantage against peanut allergy. Again, the above reasoning is wrong but not completely baseless.

I see what you mean, I'm not so sure if there's a genetic connection to allergies (specific to allergies, not intolerances, which are a different thing) and/or how strong it is relating to different elements

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Post by afterburner »

cmurf wrote: post #45
chadash wrote: post #16

This is not new news, but nonetheless important to replicate and keep studying. I think the first often-cited study about this was in 2008 [1]. There are several more, including one in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2015 [2]. Basically, the original study looked at Jewish kids in Israel versus the UK and saw that peanut allergies were about 10x lower in Israel, even though Jews of European background (Ashkena…

As popular as it is, I wonder if there's effectively microdosing happening from baby's 1st week, even before they eat it themselves?

Good question, I mean how many people were actually feeding Cheeto puffs to their 6 month old before it became a health trend

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Post by MrBuddyCasino »

chadash wrote: post #16

This is not new news, but nonetheless important to replicate and keep studying. I think the first often-cited study about this was in 2008 [1]. There are several more, including one in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2015 [2]. Basically, the original study looked at Jewish kids in Israel versus the UK and saw that peanut allergies were about 10x lower in Israel, even though Jews of European background (Ashkena…

Probably ok to eat a little to avoid peanut allergy, but be careful about eating too much poly-unsaturated fatty acids. They do a lot of long-term damage.

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Post by logicfiction »

bombcar wrote: post #95
gimmeThaBeet wrote: post #68

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I was seeing that, I was a bit surprised that it seemed like the actual branded product. My habit is to figure out who makes that kind of stuff, when I saw Osem, I was thinking "how haven't they been acquired by some behemoth?" And then quickly found "ah nevermind, nestle" Peanut butter cheetos sounds like an incredible proposition, I'm going to be looking around for them this weekend!

Trader Joes (and Costco) are just fine selling branded product if they can get a deal for it cheap enough. It's usually the manufacturer that doesn't want to "cheapen their brand" to hit the price points, but they're willing to "bulk up" for Costco or sell direct to Trader Joes at times.

Also a lot of things at Trader Joes are just white labeled versions of other products. As in, literally the same product, just inside packaging that says "Trader Joe's "

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Post by Swizec »

throwaway12245 wrote: post #121
brewdad wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The palm oil is less than ideal but this isn't exactly health food to begin with.

>palm oil is less than ideal Why do you say this? Just curious. Palm oil is one of the better plant oils, no?

The main problem with palm oil isn’t health afaik, it’s the orangutan habitat destruction since most palm oil still comes from wild forests instead of farming.

https://www.wwf.org.uk/updates/8-things-know-about-palm-oil

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Post by ajross »

CatWChainsaw wrote: post #128
yamtaddle wrote: post #123

Been a suspicion of many for quite a while that the rise of "don't give babies nuts or nut-based products, they might die!" advice and going from one nut allergy per school to one per class wasn't coincidental, but was caused by precisely that reduction in early exposure. Folk-wisdom nets a win, this time, I suppose.

In addition to other societal trends about helicopter parenting, I could see parents extrapolating danger from honey to other substances out of fear, out of lack of information. (In case anyone's curious. Honey contains spores of Clostridium botulinum, the bacterium responsible for botulism/botulinum toxin aka the world's deadliest molecule. People over the age of 1 can ingest honey safely. Infants need time to build…

Nitpick: it's the gut flora, not the immune system. Adults can ingest botulinum safely because in our guts it gets out-competed by the existing microbes that have been living there for years. Infants haven't developed that gut ecosystem yet, so the bad bacteria can find a home and start making toxins.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Post by boomboomsubban »

azinman2 wrote: post #112
dap wrote: post #110

I still can’t get over that the official guidelines for years were the opposite of this, and it seems to have led to a tremendous increase in severe peanut allergy. I get that public health organizations have to make recommendations in the face of uncertainty. But to get it so wrong, with severe consequences — was there a postmortem or investigation of how that happened? How are people to trust public health guidelin…

If you zoom out, people used to use leaches for disease. Humans generally go through waves of health care trends. Generally speaking the progress gets better over time.

Leeches are still used in some medical situations, usually various types of tissue grafting.
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