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Re: XFCE 4.18

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> If you just want "Win98, but in 2022," you've found your desktop environment. If you want Windows 95 in 2022: https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95

While we're at it, you can customize XFCE to look like macOS Big Sur: https://invidious.baczek.me/watch?v=oQ8RWtD3MTQ EDIT: there is an updated version of this procedure: https://invidious.baczek.me/watch?v=uvvoJU69uNo

I prefer Mac OS 9 Platinum:

https://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2022/04/12/2330

:)

Re: XFCE 4.18

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post #38

Does anyone know of a good way to disable that braindead window fading "feature" in GTK? If you look at the changelog, the text in the inactive window is barely readable. I have to squint to read it on most monitors. Fading it is also unnecessary in most applications. Gnome apps need to do it because they have no titlebar, but this isn't a problem in most cases, and xfwm can draw titlebars just fine. I know I can man…

No solution, only sympathy, but I agree, what an unpleasant situation. You get me started I will go on and on about how much better our desktop environment could be if designers cared a little more about how things work, not just how they look.

unable to select/copy any arbitrary text(A major saving grace of the web app is that you can actually select text)

modal dialogs.

being able manipulate a lower window without raising it.

Re: XFCE 4.18

#133

Ever since I switched my desktop to Linux, I've been using Cinnamon. I've noticed XFCE, and occasionally used it briefly on some machine, but I've certainly not explored its capabilities (e.g. from the Chicago95 link I gather it can definitely be a "traditional desktop layout" style affair, perhaps with a different launcher. Can someone point out to me, as a Cinnamon user - who remembers the Windows 5 UI fondly -some…

It just acts like a well-polished traditional desktop that doesn't try force you to change the way you work.

It's lightweight, theme-able, and you can put controls/widgets/shortcuts wherever you like on the panels. Whatever panels you want, wherever you want.

I have mine set up to look quite a lot like the default gnome-2 setup from Solaris 20 years ago.bottom bar is a task bar, top bar has the whisker menu (like the start menu) in the top left corner, a bunch of shortcuts, a cpu activity monitor and then on the right the 'systray' style thing.

You could set it up as one bar like win2k if you wanted. People do. Beyond that the experience is good, consistent, intuitive, and doesn't try to forcce you to work their way.

Cinnamon is good too of course :)

Re: XFCE 4.18

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post #66

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Settings | Window Manager Tweaks | Compositor | Opacity of inactive windows

That is not what I'm asking about. I don't mean the opacity of inactive window. What I want to disable is GTK's setting of the color of various elements depending on whether the window has focus or not. Even with compositor opacity set at 100%, GTK windows that don't have focus get that dim grey text. The color is, technically, theme-defined; unfortunately, both Adwaita and Greybird use a really low-contrast color th…

Why not edit/fork the theme?

Re: XFCE 4.18

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post #18

I loved XFCE4 for probably a decade, but the constant CPU usage bugs made me switch to KDE Plasma, havent looked back.

I am a big fan of XFCE and I can agree with biggunz. Thunar freaks out randomly. And there were some other issues which I don't remember. Thunar was always the most important one I remember. Talking about the reality shouldn't be the reason for downvotes.

It went on for a few years before it was fixed. In the meantime, I went to i3wm and started using PCManFM. Came back to Thunar after a year or so. But the issue still persisted so went for a while to Nautilus. Only recently was this fixed(I think last year or so?).

KDE is not buggy for most of it's core part and uses less or similar resources wrt XFCE. I use XFCE components cos it's interchangeable and can be used as independent components... Without dragging in a ton of dependencies like in a KDE component.

Am happy as there is a significant improvement in UX with the recent minor/major releases. So am happy and back to using XFCE components.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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It has gotten better on the BSDs, but there are a lot of patches and shims that have been implemented and maintained to do that though. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGwaT5rQML0&t=580s

Should be worth noting that NetBSD is its own thing; FreeBSD and OpenBSD haven't had problems getting the newest GNOME versions for the entire lifetime of 3.0 and higher. Unlike Linux, the BSDs aren't distributions of some "upstream BSD"; instead they are developed independently with different feature sets and different goals. Unique challenges for NetBSD don't reflect on how other BSD derivations behave.

I know that, but GNOME support on FreeBSD and OpenBSD wasn't frictionless either. They just took care of it a lot faster/sooner. A ton of work has gone into getting GNOME working on both FreeBSD and OpenBSD as well as it does from some developers on the GNOME project and FreeBSD and OpenBSD developers helping out too. Just because it doesnt appear to be as big of a problem today, doesn't mean it never was.

[1] https://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2014/02/19/on-portability/ [2] https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2014/02/19/on-portability/ [3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/10/msg00580.html

Re: XFCE 4.18

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post #35

I've used XFCE (since Mar 9th, 2008 until Apr 7th, 2021) now using "i3-wm v4.21" as my main window manager on all computers. But I still use a lot of XFCE software like Thunar been most notable. Thunar has received much needed love, thank you to all developers making it better. Thunar now has "Split View" (dual pane mode) this is one of the reasons why I used more "PCManFM" or "ranger", but unlike Thunar "PCManFM" ne…

I have almost the same config as you. Wonder what distro you are using. I use Ubuntu 22.04 with XFCE and i3, installed in that order. However, I noticed that the file chooser for snap apps (firefox, chromium) does not work. Every time I want to save a file, a 'Save as...' dialog appear and when you start typing the file name, the dialog starts showing all file names that matches whatever your are typing (ie it triggers the file searcher).

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Yes, the Windows 98 one is broken.

If you think that not having image thumbnails for image files in a filepicker is a 'feature', you must be trolling. Or a Gnome developer.

Why? And why have that broken behaviour on the path entry box, where it doesn't filter down the files in the list?

Re: XFCE 4.18

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post #105

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That is not what I'm asking about. I don't mean the opacity of inactive window. What I want to disable is GTK's setting of the color of various elements depending on whether the window has focus or not. Even with compositor opacity set at 100%, GTK windows that don't have focus get that dim grey text. The color is, technically, theme-defined; unfortunately, both Adwaita and Greybird use a really low-contrast color th…

Why not edit/fork the theme?

Or use a different theme.

Re: XFCE 4.18

#140
post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is not what I'm asking about. I don't mean the opacity of inactive window. What I want to disable is GTK's setting of the color of various elements depending on whether the window has focus or not. Even with compositor opacity set at 100%, GTK windows that don't have focus get that dim grey text. The color is, technically, theme-defined; unfortunately, both Adwaita and Greybird use a really low-contrast color th…

Why not edit/fork the theme?

That's what I'm doing at the moment. However, that means a) maintaining a custom GTK theme which, given upstream's commitment to theming, is about as fun as chewing nails and about as reliable as a teapot made of chocolate and b) dragging it with me across multiple computers. I was hoping there's a better option.
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