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Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by auveair »

thefz wrote: post #123
pocketarc wrote: post #119

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That’s the same kind of thinking that leads to people saying that sitting at a computer isn’t real work, couldn’t possibly be exhausting. It’s not back-breaking work, after all. Their kind of work does come with its own challenges, even if they don’t include the same challenges you’re used to thinking about.

> Their kind of work does come with its own challenges, even if they don’t include the same challenges you’re used to thinking about. You can't be serious. Streaming yourself in a hot tub playing with an inflatable ball is a job? Then it's softcore porn, at best. These people are paid to be literally playing video games .

> Streaming yourself in a hot tub playing with an inflatable ball is a job? Then it's softcore porn, at best.

If you're not doing it for your own enjoyment, it quickly becomes a job, just like ... porn.

Besides, you're glossing over all the interaction with the audience which is very much the work part.

Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by agileAlligator »

Semaphor wrote: post #72
whateveracct wrote: post #69

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Feels like YT is a better fit? Cooking seems better suited to VoDs than streams.

I don’t think you really get donations on YouTube? And her whole stream is very interaction based, there have even been multiple parties where local (= Australian) viewers were visiting and the whole event being livestreamed.

> I don’t think you really get donations on YouTube

Youtube recently introduced a membership function, I don't know how exactly it works but should be something along those lines

Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by quickthrower2 »

thefz wrote: post #114

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Yeah because no one is shitty to people on social media platforms. And when something becomes a job it is a job. You can’t stop the game and eat a pizza, choose another game or watch some youtube. You have to do the thing that is your brand that people are expecting. It absolutely is work.

Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by ilyt »

emodendroket wrote: post #110
ehnto wrote: post #99

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The stats are a bit skewed I think, because you have to have an account on twitch to participate as a consumer on twitch, so all those 0 view streamers are very possibly people who are actually consumers and had no intention of streaming themselves.

Another possibility is just using it to capture your own play, for instance if you want to review matches later to try and analyze flaws in your game.

That's massive stretch. Why would anyone do that? Twitch player isn't that great if you want to seek around the video

Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by hn_user2 »

thefz wrote: post #123
pocketarc wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s the same kind of thinking that leads to people saying that sitting at a computer isn’t real work, couldn’t possibly be exhausting. It’s not back-breaking work, after all. Their kind of work does come with its own challenges, even if they don’t include the same challenges you’re used to thinking about.

> Their kind of work does come with its own challenges, even if they don’t include the same challenges you’re used to thinking about. You can't be serious. Streaming yourself in a hot tub playing with an inflatable ball is a job? Then it's softcore porn, at best. These people are paid to be literally playing video games .

Whether it is softcore porn or "playing video games", I don't doubt it is work. It might not be as hard as writing a database, but neither is as hard as digging a trench on a construction site.

They are being paid to be entertainers. A majority of people streaming don't get any noticable viewership even though they "play video games" every day. The people getting paid are entertaining (to some segment of the population), and put on a show while they play video games or sit in a hot tub. Video games and the hot tub are just the backdrop to the entertainment.

If feel like a quick experiment, I suggest one try watching a 2 viewer stream for 30 minutes, followed by a top stream for 30 minutes. I would wager that time will move quite slowly waiting for 30. minutes while watching the 2 viewer streamer playing the same video game as the top streamer. And while you might not totally enjoy streaming in general, I would guess that watching the top streamer will be a lot easier to endure a 30 minute watch.

Should entertainers, actors, and athletes be paid so much? That is a whole other topic, but I see no reason to separate out streamers from any of these other types of positions that are paid to entertain us.

You might not find the star athlete of some sports team interesting or worth watching, but millions of other people in your area do find it worth their time and money. Same with streamers.

Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by ilyt »

thefz wrote: post #123
pocketarc wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s the same kind of thinking that leads to people saying that sitting at a computer isn’t real work, couldn’t possibly be exhausting. It’s not back-breaking work, after all. Their kind of work does come with its own challenges, even if they don’t include the same challenges you’re used to thinking about.

> Their kind of work does come with its own challenges, even if they don’t include the same challenges you’re used to thinking about. You can't be serious. Streaming yourself in a hot tub playing with an inflatable ball is a job? Then it's softcore porn, at best. These people are paid to be literally playing video games .

People that just "play a video game" don't get an audience.

It's a mix of being entertaining personality and providing a show to the viewer.

That's kinda like saying "how's TV host a job, the guy just sits on the chair and talks".

Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by kaashif »

emodendroket wrote: post #112
holler wrote: post #97

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Seems like this could apply to startup founders as well.

You can always just get a job later in that case.

This is true. Founding a startup probably makes one more employable for more jobs than training for tennis every day.
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