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Re: Apple Music Sing

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> Adjustable vocals: Users now have control over a song’s vocal levels. They can sing with the original artist vocals, take the lead, or mix it up on millions of songs in the Apple Music catalog. I think this only requires pre-making two audio files per track, and simultaneously streaming these. Real-time lyrics, Background vocals and Duet view are all nice features too, but the hardest part processing-wise is analys…

They say it supports millions of songs so I doubt that’s how they are doing this. They are likely using a sophisticated ML version of what old karaoke machines did, and removing the vocals in real-time.

Even if they're using ML, I don't imagine they'd do it on-device. They don't even do voice recognition on-device by default.

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I was just thinking the other day that what I really want is pretty much Duolingo for singing lessons. I'd love to get better at singing, but not quite enough to actually find, schedule and pay for singing lessons from a human teacher. But I'd happily do 15 minutes a day with a Duolingo-style app, especially if it could guide me through exercises to help me sing better.

There are a lot of apps that having singing lessons. Yousician may be the most popular. I'd equate being able to speak a foreign language to singing in key. That's what the apps will be able to help with, at least from what I've seen. If that's what you're looking for, that's a good place to start. However, there is a lot of technique to make your voice sound pleasant and interesting beyond just singing on key. I'm n…

Right, I'm not expecting anything that comes close to a vocal coach - but I'm not dedicated enough to seek one out. I want to spend 15 minutes a day and get incrementally better with some pretty generic tips.

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> and can be enjoyed on iPhone, iPad, and the new Apple TV 4K But the old Apple TV 4K is not powerful enough for displaying text on a TV, even though any old iPhone is? I get that they want to push device and service adoption but they should pick a lane, either push users to upgrade devices, or push to sign up to paid services. Pushing for both at the same time is greedy.

It seems that limiting new headline software features to the latest hardware release is the direction that Apple is going lately. The most recent examples that comes to mind are the always-on display in the new iPhone 14 and the hover mode in the new iPad Pro.

You think it's a coincidence that the first iPhone with AOD is also the first one with a LTPO display? If so, why did Apple wait until the 14? If it's just an artificial limitation, wouldn't it have made more sense to do for the XS or the 7 or whatever? It's generally preferable to pull revenue forward, not hold it back for years.

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> and can be enjoyed on iPhone, iPad, and the new Apple TV 4K But the old Apple TV 4K is not powerful enough for displaying text on a TV, even though any old iPhone is? I get that they want to push device and service adoption but they should pick a lane, either push users to upgrade devices, or push to sign up to paid services. Pushing for both at the same time is greedy.

> But the old Apple TV 4K is not powerful enough for displaying text on a TV, even though any old iPhone is?

Honestly, it might not be. My Apple TV 4k seems slow as molasses with performance more like an AMLogic 905.

Not sure if it’s because it doesn’t have enough RAM, the flash is slow or the CPU is just way under powered. Yes, they advertise it as an A12Z or whatever, but it’s a binned part that wasn’t acceptable for a phone.

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I came here with that question, why don't they call this karaoke? Wondered if "karaoke" is trademarked? (or patented?!) It doesn't seem to me likely that they didn't think their audience would know the word "karaoke" at this point, but I don't know.

Cause Karaoke has cheesy or corny perception. Have you ever seen those cringe looking karaoke CD compilations of famous songs. They always look cheap. And if Apple knows anything is how to market / rebrand the same old shit and sell it to the masses at really marked up prices for profit.

Interestingly they don't even use the word カラオケ even in the Japanese press release, even though karaoke is massively popular in Japan.

https://www.apple.com/jp/newsroom/2022/12/apple-introduces-a...

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Is this akin to karaoke? (The word never appears on the page.) > Apple today announced Apple Music Sing, an exciting new feature that allows users to sing along to their favorite songs with adjustable vocals1 and real-time lyrics. Users can already "sing along to their favorite songs" -- this feels like a wasted opportunity in the first sentence to explain the differentiator. It feels like they're misusing/misunderst…

Its not "yet" Karaoke. Missing one "key" feature, with karaoke machine one can adjust the key of the song up or down to be able to sing along. Apple Music Sing appears to only adjust the vocal volume up or down.

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People will definitely rip no-vocal versions out of there (if they are good quality, that is). I see some pretty neat implications: - Young artists can (illegally) use beats by popular producers. Young producers can listen to various tracks and better understand some techniques that were shadowed by vocals before. - More bootleg remixes of popular tracks. Things that weren't possible by just slicing and sampling the…

How does this enable anything that wasn't possible before?

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Karaoke is where some other artist performs and records the song, without vocals, in the style of whoever popularized the song. This Apple feature seems to be where the same popular recording gets used, which has vocals, and then some magic processing reduces the vocals. There has always been software to sorta-kinda suppress vocals from existing recordings, but it usually ends up sounding like trash (artifacts of all…

Is it? I've never taken karaoke to mean covers. Often it is the original soundtrack with the vocals suppressed (sometimes well via remastering and sometimes poorly with an equalizer). To me karaoke is just signing to music, which is exactly what this is. I found it very strange that they avoided that word.

> Often it is the original soundtrack with the vocals suppressed (sometimes well via remastering and sometimes poorly with an equalizer).

Properly licensed karaoke tracks are covers, because licensing custom remixes of original tracks is prohibitive. There are sites where you can buy stems/backing tracks of any song you can think of, which are reproductions by talented musicians.

https://www.karaoke-version.com/custombackingtrack/wham/last...

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It's not explicit, but from the descriptions it seems to suggest it's performing recognition of the audio streams of what's being sung, and even supports dual streams for duets. So I wouldn't be surprised if it relies on a particular hardware chip that the older Apple TV simply doesn't have. That has definitely been the case for everything Apple has launched with regards to Spatial Audio.

> It's not explicit, but from the descriptions it seems to suggest it's performing recognition of the audio streams of what's being sung, and even supports dual streams for duets. Just curious: what in the article makes you think that?

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