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Re: Apple Music Sing

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I was just thinking the other day that what I really want is pretty much Duolingo for singing lessons. I'd love to get better at singing, but not quite enough to actually find, schedule and pay for singing lessons from a human teacher. But I'd happily do 15 minutes a day with a Duolingo-style app, especially if it could guide me through exercises to help me sing better.

There are a lot of apps that having singing lessons. Yousician may be the most popular.

I'd equate being able to speak a foreign language to singing in key. That's what the apps will be able to help with, at least from what I've seen. If that's what you're looking for, that's a good place to start. However, there is a lot of technique to make your voice sound pleasant and interesting beyond just singing on key. I'm not sure if that apps really help out there that much like an actual vocal coach could.

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My daughter is going to love this. Can anyone make out if songs like this are specially mastered with separate vocal channels? I’m guessing they’re not minus ones that someone else has arranged and played. If these are coming from the original artist it’ll be interesting to know if they’re being uploaded as separate vocal channels or if Apple is applying ML to do voice isolation. Do any audio file formats support sep…

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s the reasoning behind leaving out the word “karaoke”?

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Wikipedia says the patent for karaoke machine is held by a man in the Philippines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_del_Rosario?wprov=sfti...

It also says that Karaoke in Japan is predated by sing-a-long programs in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaoke?wprov=sfti1

Besides that I assume any patent from the 70s is now expired.

Re: Apple Music Sing

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They should introduce "Discover Weekly", "Release Radar" and "Enhanced Playlists". Why are the recommendations lacking so much behind Spotify? That's the only reason I can't switch over and I would love to.

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My daughter is going to love this. Can anyone make out if songs like this are specially mastered with separate vocal channels? I’m guessing they’re not minus ones that someone else has arranged and played. If these are coming from the original artist it’ll be interesting to know if they’re being uploaded as separate vocal channels or if Apple is applying ML to do voice isolation. Do any audio file formats support sep…

Plenty of file formats support this, but they're generally for DAWs and not for a final mix. In order to support volume the file would have to be packed with each individual track. Almost assuredly this is just ML-assisted frequency separation.

AAC is already interleaved multi-channel. Two-channel L/R is obviously very common for music, but spatial audio and Dolby Atmos comes with more channels (up to 128, which can be arranged and binned into "beds"). 5.1 (6 channels) and 7.1 (8 channels) are also common for video. Having dedicated/isolated vocal tracks as a channel very trivial in the format. I'd expect this is how it's done, and not ML, because Apple have already been driving mixing and end to end workflow with studios for Spatial audio and mastered for iTunes.

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This could really revolutionize amateur music. Having easy access to instrumental versions of millions of tracks will be huge for remixers, people recording vocal demos, etc. ...well, maybe. I'm sure you won't be able to export the vocal-less versions out to an audio file directly. But you should be able to turn off the vocals and capture the resulting audio by the usual means: loopback audio drivers, analog capture,…

Extracting vocal tracks from songs is something that is done trivially in all audio mixing software out there. This is hardly a "revolution", especially considering Apple isn't even going to let you export the results digitally.

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Is this akin to karaoke? (The word never appears on the page.) > Apple today announced Apple Music Sing, an exciting new feature that allows users to sing along to their favorite songs with adjustable vocals1 and real-time lyrics. Users can already "sing along to their favorite songs" -- this feels like a wasted opportunity in the first sentence to explain the differentiator. It feels like they're misusing/misunderst…

I came here with that question, why don't they call this karaoke?

Wondered if "karaoke" is trademarked? (or patented?!)

It doesn't seem to me likely that they didn't think their audience would know the word "karaoke" at this point, but I don't know.

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This looks really cool, and it'll be interesting to see how artists and producers react. Presumably the tracks need to be mixed for the format with dedicated vocal track. Although it's possible to isolate vocals some of the time from mixes, using stereo separation (the vocals are often the only component that is 100% center mixed), filtering, and even AI techniques ... none are perfect. I wonder if this will have the…

Serato just released Stems, which allows DJs to isolate drums, bassline, vocals in the tracks they are playing live. The algos are getting pretty damn good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Wy9szxU3A

Re: Apple Music Sing

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Weird that this is new. I’ve seen it multiple times over the past few months. Maybe I got opted into a test group or something. I activated it by accident several times and ignored it because I primarily use Apple Music when I’m driving.

You may be referring to the lyrics feature, where lyrics are displayed as the music plays. Apple Music has had that for some time.
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