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Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by Ekaros »

Schroedingersat wrote: post #112
Bubble_Pop_22 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Starlink alone will make more money than twitter ever could In a world where people are increasingly living in urban areas, fiber will annihilate satellite internet. Starlink is yet another niche thing which Musk is specialized in pursuing. In fact all of Musck companies can be summarized with "everybody has heard of them in the financial and technology press, but not many people use them"

> In a world where people are increasingly living in urban areas, fiber will annihilate satellite internet. Fiber may be way better, but putting a glorified wifi router on top of a million dollars worth of kerosene and stainless steel is a great deal cheaper than digging a 1000km long trench. There aren't many of them compared to the people in cities, but being able to serve the billion or so people that would have t…

Is the population outside areas that could reasonably be served by mobile connections really a billion? A few hundred people around should already be enough for a single tower.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by ilyt »

memish wrote: post #119
nelsonic wrote: post #11

Never bet against Elon. Starlink alone will make more money than twitter ever could. If you don’t see the potential for Twitter. That’s fine. But don’t write an article about how it’s “hell” if you don’t have the vision for how to improve it. That’s like someone who has no idea how to cook leaving a bad review for food they could never hope to improve on. If Elon listened to Haters/Doubters like this Verge journo, th…

This is why so much hate is directed at Elon. His repeated success in different domains causes severe cognitive dissonance. It's an in your face painful reminder that success isn't entirely due to luck. It's a lot easier to dismiss someone's success when it only happens once.

More like bewilderment on how many times someone can not deliver on promise yet still get people throwing money at them

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by bluehatbrit »

timmb wrote: post #86
bluehatbrit wrote: post #26

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I've just assumed this is the new version of buying media outlets. Bezos bought the Washington Post, Musk decided to buy Twitter. I'm sure it won't be long before Musk hating gets you kicked off the platform.

Washington Post not the NYT no?

Thanks yes, you're right the Washing Post. Edited my comment.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by muaytimbo »

rospaya wrote: post #77
xiphias2 wrote: post #47

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Media has been going totally in the left direction after Trump won. I don't really like him, but cancelling people exactly at the same time by all media companies shows that it's all controlled by a few people. Of course they try everything to say bad things about Elon now...it's funny to see actually.

Love to see somebody use the word cancelled, because it means absolutely nothing. Louie CK jerked off in front of women, got cancelled and got a Grammy last year. He's still wealthy and does shows. So is Kanye. Cancelling doesn't mean shit.

Ye got his deals with Adidas (and others) cancelled and Louie CK got a Netflix show and comedy tour cancelled. In both of your own examples "shit" happened.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by ilyt »

jongjong wrote: post #121
_hcuq wrote: post #99

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Advertisers love 4chan type sewers. So do users.

This makes no sense because people on Twitter choose who they follow. If some 'deplorables' want to follow some other deplorables, then let them; I'm sure some companies will still want to advertise to them. The people who only want to consume government and corporate propaganda will only see content from like-minded people anyway; they will get the safe experience that they want. No problem! Companies can target the…

You don't get only stuff you follow tho, you get anything whoever you subscribed to retweeted.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by _hypx »

memish wrote: post #119
nelsonic wrote: post #11

Never bet against Elon. Starlink alone will make more money than twitter ever could. If you don’t see the potential for Twitter. That’s fine. But don’t write an article about how it’s “hell” if you don’t have the vision for how to improve it. That’s like someone who has no idea how to cook leaving a bad review for food they could never hope to improve on. If Elon listened to Haters/Doubters like this Verge journo, th…

This is why so much hate is directed at Elon. His repeated success in different domains causes severe cognitive dissonance. It's an in your face painful reminder that success isn't entirely due to luck. It's a lot easier to dismiss someone's success when it only happens once.

Musk failed at countless things. It's pure delusion to think that he has "repeated success in different domains."

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by mikkergp »

throwaway0x7E6 wrote: post #126
joshstrange wrote: post #34

Can't wait to see that hot takes from the free speech absolutists who have never experienced that first-hand on a platform they frequent regularly. We already know what that looks like, it's 4chan/8kun/etc and surprise, it's absolute shit.

can't wait to see the people advocating against fundamental freedoms to finally get the short end of the "companies are allowed to do whatever they want" stick.

Who is advocating against fundamental freedoms and how do you think they'll get the short end of the "companies are allowed to do whatever they want" stick?

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by semidetached »

Koshkin wrote: post #104
thunderbong wrote: post #78

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IMHO, the world would be a better place of people who're qualified in a particular subject would opine in their area of expertise. Nowadays, we have every Tom, Dick and Harry commenting on anything and everything, regardless of how informed, educated or even experienced in the area they want to criticize.

> IMHO I would like to hear an expert's opinion on this though.

An expert or a so-called expert?

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by uni_rule »

nelsonic wrote: post #11

Never bet against Elon. Starlink alone will make more money than twitter ever could. If you don’t see the potential for Twitter. That’s fine. But don’t write an article about how it’s “hell” if you don’t have the vision for how to improve it. That’s like someone who has no idea how to cook leaving a bad review for food they could never hope to improve on. If Elon listened to Haters/Doubters like this Verge journo, th…

I doubt it because it's a braindead decision. It's also totally out of his wheelhouse. Twitter is not a commercial product, nor is it an engineering project. It's a forum. A really volatile forum. Elon has no experience moderating forums, he's not a site administrator. If he's the one actually calling the shots he's gonna run it into the ground because it simply isn't his field. This is the acquisition the least similar to any of his other successes he's ever made. Such a business simply doesn't run in the same logic as a contractor or manufacturer. Besides, a huge number of Twitter's core staff just jumped ship the moment they heard the news. That's the relevant experience. That's their product people. They fled. If the brain drain hits the company hard enough and the loosening of moderation goes particularly poorly the whole site is absolutely doomed and he will lose more money than Yahoo acquiring Tumblr did.
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