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A wide plug is less likely to get jostled out by moving the cord sideways back and forth. It's fairly common sense.
And a width of 21mm is the only configuration that could satisfy this requirement? Precisely that, and no other? I don't mean to be flip, but it beggars belief to say that this is some sort of platonic form of tablet connector, especially given that the connector originated on the iPod in 2003, and existed not for stability, but for thinness, and to provide additional pins for accessories in a larger Apple-specific e…
Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
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Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#132I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing. Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector? I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical. Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn…
But I do wish it was a more standard USB port, like the micro one that Amazon's adopted.
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#133I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing. Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector? I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical. Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn…
I know at least one Android tablet that has an extra power connector because apparently it's USB micro connector can not provide sufficient power. Maybe the Apple USB connector is not even protected design and Samsung was allowed to use it? Is it actually compatible to the Apple connector. Once you go for a wider connector, perhaps again there are not that many options if you want to be thin. It has to be some kind o…
I'm offended that anyone can look at the situation and argue that Samsung arrived at their designs independently.
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#134As well as white, silver, beige, or any of the hundreds possible distinct shades of gray. Throughout 1980-90s, computer monitors were beige, and that was considered to be a classy, neutral, subdued color that works with any content, just like black is considered today. I'm not saying beige is better; I'm just saying that this whole thing that black is "the only possible color" is annoying. Apple themselves make a white iPad as well as covers in different colors, so clearly black is not the only game in town.
Oh, and I've held Sony Tablet S, and it works just fine in portrait orientation; as a matter of fact Sony's tablet is easier to hold with one hand in portrait mode than iPad is. What a bunch of whiners.
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#135It's made even harder because engineers and business managers often insist on extra functionality or visual clutter.
(Often there are good usability or marketing reasons for this, but too often it's simply the desire to be "part of the process".)
Now you do give up something with simplicity. In art you force the user to supply context and sometimes even interpretation; in software design this can actually be a plus. One of the things you give up in software, and hardware, design is novelty. When you boil a solution down to its essence there's often not room for differentiation. You have to change either the constraints, smaller batteries, for example, or change user expectations.
This makes competing against something so "undesigned" very difficult without trying to completely re-conceptualize a product.
This is what Apple did with the iPhone. Now it helped them in that the basic "smart phone" was so utterly, indescribably awful before they entered the market. I imagine the process Jobs went through involved looking at the current market and deciding that there was no way to fix any of that. So they started from scratch. A big deal was realizing that they weren't simply making a phone with some connectivity features and a bigger display, but they were designing a small, portable communication platform that needed to have absolutely minimal impact on, well, portability. They looked at the problem and built just enough to solve the basics and provide a minimal amount of hardware and software to support the ideas. Anything added needs to have minimal impact on the basics.
Now they didn't get it perfect, by any means. But they did a good, credible job. Good enough that if you are a competitor you are going to have a hard time solving the same problems, with the same constraints, and not come up with something that a layman would have a hard time distinguishing from the original.
Now I'm against software patents myself, and think hardware patents should be much more difficult to get and keep. But legal issues aside, if you want to compete against the iPhone and iPad, and not seem like an also-ran, you are going to have to come up with a different interaction paradigm. A device built into spectacles with a heads up display and vision tracking? Something totally audio based; Siri anyone? I can see the attraction to a phone with no display or buttons at all.
I don't know the solution(s) myself, this is not an area I'm interested in developing in.
But I'll probably want to own whatever the next "Steve Jobs" comes up with. A Samsung iPhone/iPad knockoff? Not so much...
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So why aren't we reading articles saying 'Sales of Samsung USB cables banned' rather than 'Sales of Samsung Tablets banned'? I agree that the USB cable is rather a smoking gun - but it's the only one. If that's what's wrong, attack that . Don't go and use that to argue about everything else.
>So why aren't we reading articles saying 'Sales of Samsung USB cables banned' This almost borders on the deliberately obtuse, here. The USB cable doesn't exist in isolation, a decorative piece in the packaging, to be displayed on your desk as the proud owner of a Samsung product. The cable plugs into the tablets Samsung is selling . Only those tablets, no others. The cables serve no other use. These tablets have a p…
Apple are asking them to change a whole load of things - colour, size, proportionality etc. Why not just ask them to change the cable?
Let's put it the other way - if someone came out and said they had a patent on some part of Apple's power cable - be it a design patent or a technology one - would you say that Apple would have to stop selling iPads? Or just stop selling those particular cables, and design around it?
For a similar case, look at the recent Doom 3 source code release. John Carmack had to remove the code for Carmack's Reverse because it infringed a Creative Labs patent (which had been licensed specifically to id, not to outside developers). He didn't have to remove the whole code base, just the one bit that actually infringed.
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
And a width of 21mm is the only configuration that could satisfy this requirement? Precisely that, and no other? I don't mean to be flip, but it beggars belief to say that this is some sort of platonic form of tablet connector, especially given that the connector originated on the iPod in 2003, and existed not for stability, but for thinness, and to provide additional pins for accessories in a larger Apple-specific e…
I am sure they did not copy the 21mm because it looks the best. There must be some other reason.
We agree. That reason being, it looks like Apple's, and consumers love that.
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#138I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing. Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector? I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical. Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn…
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#139I'm not convinced that rounded corners are anything more than a trend right now. Aesthetically, many beautiful objects have sharp corners - tables, windows, and computer screens, not to mention the universal reading tablet, a.k.a. the piece of paper. Our eyes haven't had a problem staying focused inside these rectangles. The big draw for rounded corners is comfort. But we've been using sharp rectangular folders, bind…
' Steve suddenly got more intense. "Rectangles with rounded corners are everywhere! Just look around this room!". And sure enough, there were lots of them, like the whiteboard and some of the desks and tables. Then he pointed out the window. "And look outside, there's even more, practically everywhere you look!". He even persuaded Bill to take a quick walk around the block with him, pointing out every rectangle with rounded corners that he could find. '
[1] http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Round_Rects_Are_E...
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
Black bezel, marginal silver border, years before the iPad, made by Samsung: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/1/SAMS.jp...
Samsung's picture frame is no iPad: http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2011/08/23/samsungs-digital-pi...