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Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by ebzlo »

danilocampos wrote: post #102

I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing. Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector? I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical. Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn…

I hate mini-usb, for some reason the fit has never been good for me. I'm fine with Apple's USB connector being the standard fit for our mobile devices. And this means if someone has a Samsung tablet at their house, I can charge my iPad.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by samtregar2 »

sirn wrote: post #89
samtregar2 wrote: post #56

That's amazing - this site managed to come up with CSS that prevents the font from getting bigger even when I ctrl-+ the page. Thanks for making it impossible for me to read, asshats.

It's `-webkit-text-size-adjust`. This property, at its original intent, was introduced as a way to tell Mobile Safari (and other WebKit mobile browsers) to not auto-adjust the font size on orientation change. However, there also exists `-apple-text-size-adjust` that used in several WebKit views in Apple softwares (e.g. Safari's RSS reader use `-apple-text-size-adjust` for its sidebar). At one point they deprecated `-…

Thanks - very informative. Why would they bother trying to prevent font re-sizing on orientation change? Surely that's done to make the text more readable.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by danilocampos »

ebzlo wrote: post #111
danilocampos wrote: post #102

I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing. Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector? I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical. Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn…

I hate mini-usb, for some reason the fit has never been good for me. I'm fine with Apple's USB connector being the standard fit for our mobile devices. And this means if someone has a Samsung tablet at their house, I can charge my iPad.

> if someone has a Samsung tablet at their house, I can charge my iPad.

Not so much – the cable isn't actually compatible. It just looks like it should be.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by [deleted] »

Stratoscope wrote: post #87
samtregar2 wrote: post #56

That's amazing - this site managed to come up with CSS that prevents the font from getting bigger even when I ctrl-+ the page. Thanks for making it impossible for me to read, asshats.

They are using this evil CSS style: body { -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; } Here is a userstyle that will fix the problem on this site and on all other sites that use this style: http://userstyles.org/styles/54719/ctrl-plus-text-zoom-fix

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Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by tomkarlo »

nkassis wrote: post #48
sbuk wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your examples aren't particularly good ones; it would appear none of the post-iPad images are of a Samsung device. The point can best be illustrated using the same approach that a judge did in one of the hearings; if you hold up any of the devices prior to the iPad and an iPad and ask a typical consumer to identify which one is the iPad, there is no question as to which one they'd instantly pick. Do the same with a a…

Did they hide the samsung brand on the front and had it turned off? I mean most people are aware of the Apple brand and would know it's not and iPad just based on the lack of the apple logo.

If the only thing the distinguishes your product from a competitor's predecessor is the change in which logo is on it, you've got a serious issue.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by danilocampos »

Qz wrote: post #110
danilocampos wrote: post #102

I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing. Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector? I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical. Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn…

A wide plug is less likely to get jostled out by moving the cord sideways back and forth. It's fairly common sense.

And a width of 21mm is the only configuration that could satisfy this requirement?

Precisely that, and no other? I don't mean to be flip, but it beggars belief to say that this is some sort of platonic form of tablet connector, especially given that the connector originated on the iPod in 2003, and existed not for stability, but for thinness, and to provide additional pins for accessories in a larger Apple-specific ecosystem. It was designed with a purpose, no part of which beyond thinness obtains when applied to a non-Apple device.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by Apple-Guy »

cma wrote: post #81
Xuzz wrote: post #37

See, to me, Samsung does have an issue here, but it's not about the "rounded rectangle" shape or the "reasonably thick black bezel": it's the fact they have both of those, like the iPad, but then also surround them with a marginal silver border. I own both the Galaxy Tab 10.1" and an iPad 2, and I actually do get confused between the two all the time, when looking at them from above. They're about the same thickness…

Black bezel, marginal silver border, years before the iPad, made by Samsung: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/1/SAMS.jp...

Samsung's picture frame is no iPad: http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2011/08/23/samsungs-digital-pi...

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by Helianthus »

ianstormtaylor wrote: post #109

This article is fraught with frustratingly-incorrect use of the word "design". The author continually mistakes "design" for visual appearance. "Apple never designed the iPad. They undesigned the tablet. They focused on creating the simplest form possible. Every single decision is based on usability, readability, comfort, and focusing your eyes on the content itself." That's exactly what design is: finding the problem…

I'm furious over the use of the 'word' "undesign." THEY'RE DESTROYING MY LANGUAGE.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by Apple-Guy »

Pewpewarrows wrote: post #17

I'll just leave this here for everyone saying that iPad-like designs never existed before the iPad: http://gdeluxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/20111004-03455...

Actually, here are the tablets before and after iPad: http://obamapacman.com/2011/08/ipad-tablet-obvious-design/
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