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Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by stavros »

paskozdilar wrote: post #130
stavros wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IPFS can't give you the least-seeded files. It can't give you any files, you have to manually pin the set you want, and you pin all of it, and it won't automatically change. It's not very convenient for archival, whereas the system I'm talking about would be (in my opinion, anyway).

(How) would you filter junk?

You'd trust the publisher, so you'd say "I want to help the Internet Archive with its archiving" and they'd be responsible for what files they pushed to your storage.

This is basically an opportunistic, distributed filesystem that's designed to work with high latency links. Only the tracker can write to its nodes, but anyone can read.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by Brian_K_White »

paskozdilar wrote: post #130
stavros wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IPFS can't give you the least-seeded files. It can't give you any files, you have to manually pin the set you want, and you pin all of it, and it won't automatically change. It's not very convenient for archival, whereas the system I'm talking about would be (in my opinion, anyway).

(How) would you filter junk?

Not part of the question or problem statement as I see it.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by malloryerik »

jrm4 wrote: post #124

Again, it's just insane to me that we don't even much have a meaningful discussion of: "Hey, wait, literally everyone could have the entire library of Alexandria in their house for a couple hundred bucks per person. Like, all the knowledge ever. Maybe that should be considered the good default of things. At least one in every town that everyone could use, for free, forever, without restriction to ANY of the knowledge…

OK, what's the napkin math?

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

HideousKojima wrote: post #107
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And nobody would ever think of keeping a reverse DNS index.

With shared hosting, NAT, etc. there may be several sites sharing the same IP.

Doesn't amount to much if any one of those sites is on a watchlist.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by killingtime74 »

amelius wrote: post #104
facethewolf wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From their FAQ: > Q: Should the Z-Library collection be added to Library Genesis? > A: Yes! However, it is tricky. Library Genesis splits out its collection between non-fiction and fiction. They also have relatively high quality standards. If you are interested in organizing all the books to meet their requirements, let us know.

Can't they just tag these books as "not reviewed yet"? Anyone looking for these books can then just decide to include them.

Here are 2x 16tb drives for ~$900 AUD ($600 USD), RAID them. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/710309

Put it in a case with all parts, $800USD all up?

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by Brian_K_White »

jrm4 wrote: post #124

Again, it's just insane to me that we don't even much have a meaningful discussion of: "Hey, wait, literally everyone could have the entire library of Alexandria in their house for a couple hundred bucks per person. Like, all the knowledge ever. Maybe that should be considered the good default of things. At least one in every town that everyone could use, for free, forever, without restriction to ANY of the knowledge…

Insane in the abstract, but not exactly unfathomable. Who would make money off of that, and who else makes money off of it's absense?

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by solarengineer »

robonerd wrote: post #47
enriquto wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they can serve you anything they want. Great. More books! No really, I don't understand this argument. A static site served by plain http is perfectly appropriate. It's like a poster hanging on the wall for all to see. Of course people can paint over it, but it doesn't really matter.

They could serve you javascript that exploits your browser. At the very least, they could replace that bitcoin donation address with their own. That's a tempting target if nothing else.

I can confirm this. A friend uses a government backed ISP, and he frequently receives popups announcing local government announcements.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by tastysandwich »

mkl wrote: post #30
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #3

HTTP-only makes me weary of visiting a self-professed piracy site. They couldn't even spring for a Let's Encrypt cert?

*wary For some reason I'm seeing this mistake more and more lately. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/weary vs https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wary

Geez, poor bloke is really copping it for that typo!

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by robonerd »

Aachen wrote: post #103
robonerd wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could serve you javascript that exploits your browser. At the very least, they could replace that bitcoin donation address with their own. That's a tempting target if nothing else.

If you think you're high value enough to have someone target you specifically by getting on your LAN or gaining access to (or coercing) an upstream ISP to serve you a browser 0-day reachable only by laying in wait for you to visit an HTTP site because there is no other way in, that's not going to be for a free books website.

Consider that the downloads page for this site tells you to use their tor hidden service. If you open http://pilimi.org/ in Tor, you'll go through an exit node that could be MITMing everybody opportunistically, not targeting you specifically.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by seoaeu »

jrm4 wrote: post #124

Again, it's just insane to me that we don't even much have a meaningful discussion of: "Hey, wait, literally everyone could have the entire library of Alexandria in their house for a couple hundred bucks per person. Like, all the knowledge ever. Maybe that should be considered the good default of things. At least one in every town that everyone could use, for free, forever, without restriction to ANY of the knowledge…

We've basically already had that for decades thanks to public libraries. In fact, between large collections and inter-library loans most provide 1-2 orders of magnitude more content than the library of Alexandria ever held
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