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Mammals can breathe through their intestines (2021)

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Re: Mammals can breathe through their intestines (2021)

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> To find out, Takanori Takebe, a gastroenterologist from Cincinnati Children's Hospital, and his colleagues tested several approaches to ventilating the intestines of mice and pigs that were deprived briefly of oxygen. In one group of 11 mice, four had their intestines scrubbed to thin the mucosal lining and improve oxygen absorption. Next, the researchers injected pure, pressurized oxygen into the rectums of the sc…

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Re: Mammals can breathe through their intestines (2021)

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> To find out, Takanori Takebe, a gastroenterologist from Cincinnati Children's Hospital, and his colleagues tested several approaches to ventilating the intestines of mice and pigs that were deprived briefly of oxygen. In one group of 11 mice, four had their intestines scrubbed to thin the mucosal lining and improve oxygen absorption. Next, the researchers injected pure, pressurized oxygen into the rectums of the sc…

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The ones I am familiar with involve cattle being instantly killed by a high pressure tap delivered between the eyes. Gruesome aspects of butchery like disemboweling happens after the creatures are dead, not before.

Re: Mammals can breathe through their intestines (2021)

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> To find out, Takanori Takebe, a gastroenterologist from Cincinnati Children's Hospital, and his colleagues tested several approaches to ventilating the intestines of mice and pigs that were deprived briefly of oxygen. In one group of 11 mice, four had their intestines scrubbed to thin the mucosal lining and improve oxygen absorption. Next, the researchers injected pure, pressurized oxygen into the rectums of the sc…

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Re: Mammals can breathe through their intestines (2021)

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Anybody else concerned about the ethics of scrubbing intestines, injecting gas into intestines, then suffocation the mammals to death? Are animals in these procedures routinely anaesthetised?

It would be funny, if it wasn't dramatic, that animal cruelty is so common that people are only triggered by these exotic and very small scale experiments.

Killing a few mice or cloning a few sheep is barbaric but slaughtering millions of mammals every single day is business as usual.

Obviously as soon as one points that out the cognitive dissonance kicks in and the downvote brigade shows up

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The ones I am familiar with involve cattle being instantly killed by a high pressure tap delivered between the eyes. Gruesome aspects of butchery like disemboweling happens after the creatures are dead, not before.

Oh yeah that's what I thought too, just buy the "premium" meat, they surely take care of their animal, after all that's what they base their whole image on.

Then you see a few leaked videos from "ultra ethical cruelty free 3000" slaughterhouses and you understand it's just marketing BS.

This is from one of France's "cruelty free" slaughterhouses, focusing on "animal well being" which is supposedly more "responsible"

NSFL: Don't click if you don't want to see dead/suffering pigs and piglets, a dude smashing live piglets against a metal rail, mutilated pigs living in the dark with barely any space between them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O15Owo7jGtU

If you don't live next to a farm and buy straight from the farmer there is absolutely no way to tell the meat you eat actually is cruelty free. It's all empty promises and feel good marketing

Re: Mammals can breathe through their intestines (2021)

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You better not know what else scientists do to rats. And please, don't even start on the argument that they do it for science and not for entertainment. Entertainment in the form of science fiction is crucial for inspiring new generations of scientists.

Scientists don't abuse or cause distress or panic in animals, just FYI. There are very strict rules around it.

Simply not true. There are some rules to limit the amount of abuse or distress for some types on animal, but that doesn't prevent anywhere near all of it.

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Scientists don't abuse or cause distress or panic in animals, just FYI. There are very strict rules around it.

Simply not true. There are some rules to limit the amount of abuse or distress for some types on animal, but that doesn't prevent anywhere near all of it.

Ive done animal experiments. All the rats were unconscious.

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I'm no medical science person, but I had surgery a year ago for some type of severe gangrene, and while I miraculously came out whole, I'm still suffering horrible digestive issues that had nothing to do with it, presumably from the antibiotics needed to nuke the bad bacteria (because of intolerance to the one that was more efficient they had to use more indiscriminate solutions). It didn't specifically cause the iss…

I had antibiotics induced digestive problems too. I saw a specialist and the treatment was another cocktail of antibiotics. It worked immediately after taking the first dose.

What kind of specialist was this?

Re: Mammals can breathe through their intestines (2021)

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This kind of makes me wonder if diving suits are going to include emergency buttplugs in the future.

At one point in time, they would have, had they existed at all: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31283950/ "Intra-rectal tobacco insufflation as a resuscitation method for drowning victims: A gold-standard in the 18th century"

Surely horses from this time period were available to comment.

Re: Mammals can breathe through their intestines (2021)

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Yeah not sure the ends justify the means here, that's for sure.

They do. If this can be extended to humans, the resulting technology would have saved hundreds of lives during Covid alone, not to think of burn victims.

I mean maybe eventually some method is discovered, but this doesn't have an immediate human application. I don't think we're going to start scrubbing intestines to treat covid anytime soon.
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