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A group of open source Android apps without ads or unnecessary permissions

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Re: A group of open source Android apps without ads or unnecessary permissions

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I contribute to open source by writing it and participating in the community, not by spending dollars.

Alas, neither my grocery store nor does my landlord care about nice feels. Hence I do HTTP 402 Pay me.

I agree, you don't owe me anything. You don't have to share your code for free.

My point is that if you want to make money for your code, either get a job writing software or create a business around the software you wrote.

I think open source should be created by people not trying to make money from it. I understand that not everyone feels this way, and I sometimes agree with the arguments. However, my overall feeling is that supporting open source work should come in the form of companies supporting their employees to work on open source work that is valuable for the company employing those people. They contribute to open source not because they are trying to make money from that work, but because they use that software to support their main money making work, and get more value by sharing the work than keeping it fully internal.

Re: A group of open source Android apps without ads or unnecessary permissions

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User buys a $600.- phone and then complains about a $2.- app. It's not enough that the application is open source, it should also be completely free of charge!

Yes, if its Open Source it should be free of charge. Open Source means something, not just that the source code is available.

> Yes, if its Open Source it should be free of charge.

Nope.

> Open Source means something, not just that the source code is available.

That the source is openly licensed. Providing paid version is a different thing.

Re: A group of open source Android apps without ads or unnecessary permissions

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Alas, neither my grocery store nor does my landlord care about nice feels. Hence I do HTTP 402 Pay me.

And so your software will be poisoned by value extraction from the user, which will be inferior to software from someone not wanting to make money, which I'll use instead. :D

Name a non-abstract but existing superior free gallery software for Android downloadable from f-droid.

It must:

1. Support mediaapi - not be confused about where Whatsapp puts its images.

2. Allow management of files.

3. Be able to provide basic organization (folders/sorting[per folder]/cover images)

4. Support all modern image formats used by phones and the web.

5. Not crash.

6. Not delete/corrupt files by accident.

7. Be able to play modern video/audio files (pick top 20 popular codecs)

Re: A group of open source Android apps without ads or unnecessary permissions

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What do you imagine Open Source means? None of the inventors or well-known stewards of Open Source ideas share your belief.

Open source licenses are licenses that comply with the Open Source Definition — in brief, they allow software to be freely used, modified, and shared. https://opensource.org/licenses

And how do these apps not allow that?

Re: A group of open source Android apps without ads or unnecessary permissions

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Alas, neither my grocery store nor does my landlord care about nice feels. Hence I do HTTP 402 Pay me.

And so your software will be poisoned by value extraction from the user, which will be inferior to software from someone not wanting to make money, which I'll use instead. :D

I love open source, but the general level of quality in most open source is... not great.

Re: A group of open source Android apps without ads or unnecessary permissions

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Don't call it Open Source if you don't understand what it means. Call it shareware or freeware with nag screens.

Don't talk about open source if you don't understand it. Paid binaries are the oldest form of OSS monetization. Is the source open and with a OSS-compatible licence? Then it's open source, not freeware nor shareware. Red Hat has nagging too.

I do understand OS. Read the preamble of gpl this explains the _purpose_ of os.

The _goal_ of open source is to provide free software. Software that is free to _use_ now, and in the future, not _just_ free to get the source, free to use. If you don't provide free software (and free build processes) it's not compliant with Open Source licences.

Paid binaries are permitted but you must be _willing_ to to give away your software free of cost.

Aguably nagware is a deliberate annoyance and time cost to the user that makes it not "free to use". Adding crippleware (making it not work after a period of time) is certainly forbidden.

If your are writing nagware with oss license no-one will take you to court, because they can fix it, but it's certainly deceptive. It imies you don't want your software to be free to use.

OS licenses were not designed as a marketing tool for individual developers to get you a foot in the door. You can do that, but don't be surprised if you get called out for it. That is not the _purpose_ of OS.

That's the purpose of a free tier.

As a RedHat customer I don't find any of the software use daily to be suffering from nagware.

If grep had nagware in it, I'd bitch about it on HN.

Re: A group of open source Android apps without ads or unnecessary permissions

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I am a heavy user of f-droid and avoid these 'Simple' apps. The high level of nag is not just annoying but borders on begging. Having pro versions where you can change colors defeats the idea of open source. I hate bringing the negative energy, but there is a treasure of apps available with f-droid other than these. I am glad they have their own website and wish they just went and did their own thing there.

> Having pro versions where you can change colors defeats the idea of open source Do you have any other ways the developer can make a living? AFAIK the pro features (excluding the closed source 3rd party SDKs) are all open source. You can build them on your own or download it off F-Droid.

I'm seriously surprised by the number of people here not understanding what free software / open source means.

The tag line is literally "free as in freedom, not as in beer". How is it possible to miss this?

Re: A group of open source Android apps without ads or unnecessary permissions

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I use the Gallery app and it was really the best, until the developer had to remove the hide/unhide images due to changes in Android 12 :( .

I use the gallery app on android 12 (on a Pixel) and the hiding and unhiding works.

Do you use the Pro version?

The free one hasn't been updated in a few years so is not affected by changes to Android 12.

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