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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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This highlights one of my growing ethical dillemas. I am a US citizen, and sometimes I am really ashamed of my country. We have done some really bad stuff. We’ve done a whole lot of shady stuff that is complicated to pass simple judgement on. But the US has done good stuff as well. They loan money, send aid, rebuild, provide. Some times the motives are duplicitous in these acts of good. But the bottom line is, when I…

> I am a US citizen, and sometimes I am really ashamed of my country Is there any country in history with comparable economic and military power to the US that has a "cleaner" record in terms of "bad stuff"? I'm specifying comparable power to specifically exclude tiny nations that never had the capacity to do "bad stuff."

None of your potential candidates have ever nuked any other country, which in terms of war crimes rates pretty damn high.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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What you refer to as "whataboutism" is essentially an attempt to have a more balanced view. All countries are equal, but some are a bit more, right? I agree 100% that awful things done by one country do not justify in any way atrocious actions in another. That said, for some reason most people to decide to pick a side very quickly blaming all the world evil on one person and country. Frankly speaking, the USA, EU, Uk…

Actually not. It's Putin who is to blame.

Putin is a head of the snake. This wouldn't be possible if not for nationwide support. Protests in Russia are minuscule.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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> I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision Drastic. Catastrophic. Suicidal. World-changing. The country (Russia) in its current form has just ceased to exist. The entire parasitic elite class just got cut off from everything they stole during all these years. The entire human potential of Russia just got nullified for at lest 20 years. The push towards green energy (and I hope nuclear fusion) just got a…

i know it's very easy to say, but if you're russian right now, it seems to me that the only sane choice is to actively organize the overthrow of putin. It's one of the rare case (nuclear war threats), where it may be the safest solution. Especially now that a few public figures in Russia have officially standed against that war. There may be an opportunity to reach a critical mass at home.

It may work in a country where private business (i.e. state-independent source of income) is dominant, but a lot of Russians have jobs at state-owned institutions now (various administrations etc.) where they work for a meager wage.

If they go out protesting, they will be fired from their jobs -- their only source of income. Not exactly a good decision, especially during the crisis times.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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You might want to check stuff like virtual office service, incorporation in an EU country, they start really cheap, as well as getting a VPS to bounce from. And stuff like Electronic Money Institutes for at least some really basic banking. Fair warning though, some of these things look rather shady so use some common sense and be careful with your local legislation (See MrDisposables response) edit: To elaborate on t…

Sweet. I would recommend checking on stuff like “do I know how to grow and harvest potatoes” and “ensure I have firewood and a wood burning stove for heating”. These will be much more useful for survival than a virtual office space.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Actually not. It's Putin who is to blame.

Putin is a head of the snake. This wouldn't be possible if not for nationwide support. Protests in Russia are minuscule.

> Putin is a head of the snake. This wouldn't be possible if not for nationwide support. Protests in Russia are minuscule.

Protests in Russia are significant, for a regime that punished protest so harshly and responds to it otherwise so little.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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JetBrains founders are Russian and have publicly condemned the attacks [1]. JetBrains does have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg but they're technically a Czech company with their head office in Prague, Czech Republic. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30459985

it is a full-scale war, there are no "attacks"

https://ukraine.ua/news/stand-with-ukraine/

It says:

"The most important thing you can do for Ukraine now is to READ and SHARE verified information about Russia’s attack on Ukraine."

I think they started the war by attacking Ukraine. We shouldn't try to read too much into it.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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> This country should pay for every war crime they committed. There are no innocence in war. Silent complacency what brought it on. Russian IT giants did nothing to prevent the bloodshed. On the contrary, they actively propagate lies generated by their government. Is this the propaganda you're talking about? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion Or maybe the Russians have hacked the official Twitter account of…

Give it up. Azov Battalion is explicitly neo-Nazi. It's also about about 1500 people. If you're going to engage in whataboutism over the wholesale invasion of a country, you've gonna have to do better than that.

That said, there's no justification for the Nazi crap.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Well, intervention in Yugoslavia wasn’t a war started by the US. The Kuwait war was after an invasion by Iraq and at the invitation of the government there, and the US were restrained enough to halt at the Iraq border. The Syrian war was not started by the US, and it has played a minor part there. In fact, it is Russia that has indiscriminately bombed Syrian cities and targeted civilians and hospitals there. Afghanis…

Iraq war while justified by wrong evidence, it was a necessity. Saddam did use WMDs on Kurdish villages - he bombed them with Sarin gas - that is HAVING WMDs. It has nothing to do with imperialism as i don't see any annexations made by the US, nor puppet governments. Ukraine, on the other hand, had territories chipped away from it, separatists backed up Russia for years and years, and now a surprise attack without fo…

Yeah, Saddam did that in 80s, US was still cooperating with him due to Iran/Iraq war (remember that Saddam-Rumsfeld photo? It wasn't staged or some freak coincidence but regular business/military talks and pats on the back). Those attacks didn't stop the cooperation. I don't think anybody powerful really cared about those poor civilians, it was just pretext but in this case a real one.

Anyway back to the topic - we europeans look at this war as existential threat to our democracy, its not about just Ukraine anymore. That's why thousands javelins and stingers were provided by US, UK and other states which allowed them to defend till now. After Ukraine, it would be increasing russian circle towards west - baltic states, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania. Thats 100 million of people who know very well how horrible the life is under russian oppression and terror.

Its also in US interests that this pans out with russians losing and stopping their imperialism - Europe is by far the biggest US ally (count 500 million relatively rich people), losing it would mean US power becomes progressively marginal in this world. Nobody free wants that, there are plenty of bullies out there, small and big.

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