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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by theshrike79 »

aaomidi wrote: post #27
meetups323 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think Google doesn't scan photos uploaded to its cloud services for CSAM?

Do you understand how it's different when it's on their servers vs having the functionality to scan for anything they want on your phone? We don't need to have this discussion again. Please go research the hundreds of thousands of discussions and blog posts about how what apple is proposing to do is entirely different.

Yes, I understand.

When they scan it on my phone, they don't need to scan it in the cloud. They have one less reason to touch my stuff when it's on their servers. One step closer to full E2EE.

Every major cloud provider is already scanning every photo you put up and in most cases without any human review. Your photo gets flagged and it's good bye account. Next step: HN front page to maybe get a human to look at your case.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by optimiz3 »

marcellus23 wrote: post #26
DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos for exact matches with known child pornography material (like every other cloud provider, including Google), and then have the case reviewed by a human only after multiple positives, and only then forwarding the case to law enforcement (based on photos you chose t…

Having my photos warantlessly rifled through by a machine and then a human really puts me at ease!

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by Unklejoe »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #11
stefan_ wrote: post #6

Since this is Google making the SoC, surely we have Linux drivers within a month for it? Already upstreamed? Some register documentation? I didn't check, but I suppose the answer is "no". Can't keep pointing at Qualcomm anymore, I guess.

That's not how open source works in SoC design. In fact it doesn't work at all an here's why: Google hasn't made the SoC and doesn't own the IP, it most likely bought a bunch of IP blocks from established vendors like Cadence, Synopys, Samsung, etc and fused them together to create a SoC. All those IPs come with their own license terms and NDAs that limit what you can do with it. You can use it in your final product…

NXP manages to do it fairly well though. Their chips have excellent upstream support.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by eric_b »

ehsankia wrote: post #123
eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

1. Not true, I see at least 2 [0] [1] 2. Even if it was true, welcome to not being included for once in your entire life. Now maybe you can start to begin to understand what others have experienced basically every day of their life. [0] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/s6bCli03aqnY_KvZoPaTgiFqCj... [1] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Zq1FVWVv9GOCRJ3oHJg0PHzWgE...

Your examples are hilarious and you can imagine how I missed those. Pretend all the photos were reversed, and those were the only two people of color on the whole page. Google would be (rightfully) chastised.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by ehsankia »

paulpan wrote: post #38

Tensor SOC seems pretty impressive on paper, will be curious about how it benchmarks and performs in real-life. The Pixel 5 with its "mid-tier" SOC (Snapdragon 765G) was actually pretty good thanks to the software optimizations. Bigger news is Qualcomm being left out. Will they go the way of Intel by incentivizing their customers build their own SOCs?

> will be curious about how it benchmarks

Benchmarks are meaningless and they also took the time to mention that in the presentation too. As you mention, the Pixel 5 did fine even with the mid-tier chipset. The reality is that phones are rarely CPU bound, and most of the heavy tasks are done by specialized cores anyways.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by abdusco »

rewq4321 wrote: post #56
mellosouls wrote: post #28

Before rushing in to purchase, note that in some regions, you can claim back a pair of Bose 700 after purchase of the Pixel (at no extra cost)... eg: https://pixel-offers.com/headphones/en-GB

Pixel hyphen offers? What a scammy looking domain. This isn't the first time I've seen a large company do this. Perfect way to help phishers confuse customers.

They should have used their `.google` TLD. It would have expressed some level of authenticity.

- store.google

- pixel-offers.google

and so on.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by theshrike79 »

wvenable wrote: post #30
DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

Samsung announced 5 years of Android updates months ago. Before that, it was 4 years of updates.

Unless it's 5 years of full on-time Android version updates it doesn't count.

"We patched a few zero days" should be the norm, not something you mightily announce as something grand and Brave.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by danellis »

notyourday wrote: post #62

Google fails at even building an ecommerce website for the special launch event. In 2021. For a launch of a major "premium product". Why on earth would one ever believe the rest of the product which is orders of magnitude more complicated would actually function and not suck in 4 months?

Oh, I don't know, maybe because those two things have nothing to do with each other.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by ehsankia »

williamscs wrote: post #104
darth_avocado wrote: post #48

Another garbage phone to show off. Google Pixel has been highly unreliable. My OG pixel XL bricked twice within 2 years. My Pixel 3 had defects that forced me to take calls on speaker phone otherwise the mic wouldn't work after the warranty expired. Meanwhile, my wife is still rocking the iPhone 7 with some degradation in battery life, but pretty much everything else working as it should. I don't regret jumping into…

Maybe it's an odd-number issue with the Pixels? My wife is using my old Pixel 2 with reduced battery life, but otherwise no issues. My Pixel 4 XL is still working great.

I've had Pixel XL, 2XL, 3, 4XL and 5. They've all worked 3-4 years (I pass them on to various members of my family). The only one I had any issues with was the 4XL, with the back plate peeling off, and Support just swapped it for me after 5m online chat.
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