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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by notyourday » Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 6:58 PM UTC

_xy8h wrote: post #79

notyourday wrote: post #62

Google fails at even building an ecommerce website for the special launch event. In 2021. For a launch of a major "premium product". Why on earth would one ever believe the rest of the product which is orders of magnitude more complicated would actually function and not suck in 4 months?

You're right! They suck, this is the first time they've ever built a phone and they have no history of working devices to prove themselves!

> they have no history of working devices to prove themselves!

* Boot loops.

* Android updates that they push to their own phones that brick those phones or break the cameras. It is as if their engineers write code against the devices those engineers can't use to test on.

* Non-existent customer service in case the phone does go into a boot loop or update breaks the camera.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by howinteresting » Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 6:58 PM UTC

whichquestion wrote: post #49

DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

5 years of security updates, 3 years of feature updates. On the page it says on the 12th footnote, "Feature drops for at least 3 years from when the device first became available on the Google Store in the US. Your Pixel will receive feature drops during the applicable Android update and support periods for the phone. See g.co/pixel/updates for details." On https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705 it says…

Unlike iOS where basic features like the web browser require system updates, Android is modular and updates get pushed through other channels independently of the OS itself.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by toiletfuneral » Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 6:58 PM UTC

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #74

marcellus23 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos for exact matches with known child pornography material (like every other cloud provider, including Google), and then have the case reviewed by a human only after multiple positives, and only then forwarding the case to law enforcement (based on photos you chose t…

You know that Google Photos scans everything, server-side, since like 2012 right?

Amazing how low in the comments this is…not defending apple at all but it’s insane to think other manufacturers are somehow more protective of your data

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by williamscs » Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 6:58 PM UTC

darth_avocado wrote: post #48

Another garbage phone to show off. Google Pixel has been highly unreliable. My OG pixel XL bricked twice within 2 years. My Pixel 3 had defects that forced me to take calls on speaker phone otherwise the mic wouldn't work after the warranty expired. Meanwhile, my wife is still rocking the iPhone 7 with some degradation in battery life, but pretty much everything else working as it should. I don't regret jumping into…

Maybe it's an odd-number issue with the Pixels? My wife is using my old Pixel 2 with reduced battery life, but otherwise no issues. My Pixel 4 XL is still working great.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by ocdtrekkie » Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 6:59 PM UTC

nick0garvey wrote: post #4

Site crashed almost instantly, couldn't get through checkout

It's truly incredible that the operator of like half a dozen of the most heavily used web properties on the planet still can't operate a basic e-commerce store that caters to the few fans who buy their phones. Maybe they should just start selling them on Amazon instead.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by theshrike79 » Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 6:59 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #75

marcellus23 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos for exact matches with known child pornography material (like every other cloud provider, including Google), and then have the case reviewed by a human only after multiple positives, and only then forwarding the case to law enforcement (based on photos you chose t…

> known child pornography material For some definition. Russia's FSB might have a very different idea of what this is. Anti-Putin memes, for instance. Navalny support materials or brochures. You'll have to watch what you download, because your phone might upload it and incriminate you. Or China's MSS. Winnie the Pooh, Tiananmen Square, Free HK, etc. Or even the FBI. Financial or political leaks, Wikileaks, etc. Once…

The definition is from NCMEC[0] and ONLY from NCMEC. No FSB, no MSS, no FBI.

This is the EXACT SAME database EVERY cloud provider has been using for about a decade. Look up Microsoft PhotoDNA.

The only difference is that the company doing it was Apple, who wanted to do the checks on-device BEFORE upload. And with multiple redundancies and human review.

Not like Microsoft, who have - for example - shut down the MS account of a German man for having photos of his own children on a beach. No human review, no way to complain. Everything gone from Outlook mail to Xbox account.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Missing_%2...

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by Ninjinka » Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 6:59 PM UTC

rewq4321 wrote: post #56

mellosouls wrote: post #28

Before rushing in to purchase, note that in some regions, you can claim back a pair of Bose 700 after purchase of the Pixel (at no extra cost)... eg: https://pixel-offers.com/headphones/en-GB

Pixel hyphen offers? What a scammy looking domain. This isn't the first time I've seen a large company do this. Perfect way to help phishers confuse customers.

100% thought it was a scam until I saw major news outlets reporting on it.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by wffurr » Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 6:59 PM UTC

Audiophilip wrote: post #83

Personally, the lack of a headphone jack is a deal-breaker for me.

I hope they keep making the A series midrange phones with head phone jacks.

EOL for my Pixel 4a is August 2023. So maybe there will be a Pixel 7a with a tensor v2 chip and headphone jack by then.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by taylorlapeyre » Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 6:59 PM UTC

kadoban wrote: post #80

taylorlapeyre wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Additionally, the while the publicity of that announcement was terrible PR for apple, it was really a request for comment. They got comments from security professionals, and then they acknowledged the problems, retracted the announcement, and are working with those professionals on a system that will be better from a privacy perspective. Try getting that behavior from Google, a company who's existence is dependent on…

Source for that? The most response I saw was a "sorry-not-sorry" and they were just going ahead.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/03/apple-delays-controversial-p...

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by cobertos » Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 6:59 PM UTC

DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

> from the only phone vendor outside of Apple who appears to give a damn about that aspect

I hope the hardware is solid too. After having 2 Google phones die just outside of warranty to bootlooping, I'm skeptical they'll be able to make them last.