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Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Post by nixass »

AlexandrB wrote: post #78
Scea91 wrote: post #5

Small details like this make my day. I also love how it was basically crowdfunded by Japanese people. It quite strenghtens the symbolic value of the medal I think.

Too bad they didn't crowdsource the decision about whether the olympics should happen this year: https://sports.yahoo.com/cancel-the-olympics-japanese-people...

Canceling Olympics is difficult. Whoever cancels it, has to pay hefty fine, either the host or the Olympic committee. The pandemic is sadly not the valid reason to cancel them, at least not in committee's eyes, so Japan was strong handed here.

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Post by chrisseaton »

sheepdestroyer wrote: post #124
chrisseaton wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This whole thread started with you giving an example of how people don't actually have these rights. So even you know they aren't actually universal or inalienable. 232 years of pretending people have rights that they demonstrably do not have.

You still continue to say that people having their rights violated means they don't exist. That's a demonstrably false and illogical statement. It's because people inherently have rights that they fight for them, and others take their side. Hence events like the French Revolution, the Abolition of slavery, or the Civil Rights Movement.

> You still continue to say that people having their rights violated means they don't exist.

Yes. What is the meaning of a right that nobody enforces?

It's just an aspiration, a wish, something you'd like to have or other people would like you to have. If nobody's enforcing it, it's not really a right. By definition.

> Hence events like the French Revolution, the Abolition of slavery, or the Civil Rights Movement.

These were fights to create rights. They didn't have them before.

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Post by throwaway2037 »

IshKebab wrote: post #51
sheepdestroyer wrote: post #43

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At least the Games serve to shine light on Japan's refusal to respect UN's Convention on the Rights of the Child, despite ratifying it in 1994. Japan's Law incites and rewards Child Abductions by giving sole custody to the first abductor. Judicial visitation decisions are not enforced. By refusing to protect the fundamental Right of Children to access both their parents directly and regularly, as per the CRC, Japan i…

I don't think the games have shone a light on that at all, sorry. First I've heard of it.

It was written about in the Financial Times: https://www.ft.com/content/d43090eb-e005-4042-8b7a-13ab00ac0...

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Post by Hacktrick »

ekianjo wrote: post #8
new299 wrote: post #7

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I feel like any article on the Olympics should mention that >80% of the Japanese population was against holding the Olympics [1]. And that in most respects it has be a disaster, I've lost count of the number of scandals and resignations... [2] Rather than being good PR for Japan, it feels like it's been overwhelmingly negative. On top of this, COVID19 infections are rapidly increasing (now at their highest level). Wh…

Olympics is such a massive waste of money that nobody except politicians who want to show off with taxpayer money or industrials benefiting from government contracts would be for it.

I completely agree. The Olympic Games are a huge waste. The stadiums built in Rio for the 2016 games are standing there unused and unmanaged and slowly degrading. I think that it was a shame that Rio was chosen to host the Olympic games. Their country should have spent the money on the nearly 50 million people in poverty in Brazil. (source: https://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-politics/more-tha...)

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Post by kzrdude »

decadancer wrote: post #86
Scea91 wrote: post #5

Small details like this make my day. I also love how it was basically crowdfunded by Japanese people. It quite strenghtens the symbolic value of the medal I think.

Almost all of government spending is crowdfunded

Olympics has huge sponsors too

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Post by JetSetWilly »

acituan wrote: post #122
JetSetWilly wrote: post #29

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The Olympics in London cost 11.3 Billion and generated revenue of 3.3 billion which doesn't exactly seem hugely beneficial. Of course in the usual London fashion most of the money came out of UK govt coffers, national lottery funding etc - so it was just a form of London sucking cash out of the rest of the UK to build infra, via the handy "Olympics" excuse, so I can see how a londoner might argue it was good as it wa…

> The Olympics in London cost 11.3 Billion and generated revenue of 3.3 billion which doesn't exactly seem hugely beneficial. Except it is one giant international PR and brand recognition event for the host country. TV ads cost in aggregate billions too and don’t bring any revenue immediately, doesn’t mean they are a waste of money. Not to mention Olympics getting people interested in doing sports, which amid a globa…

If this is true, why is there no evidence? Tourism in cities that have hosted the olympics doesn’t have an increase - certainly for london it didn’t. There’s no economic benefits in the years following for the host country that have been observed. It is doubtful that these second order benefits exist at all.

Even for “name recognition” as an end in itself - cities like London and Tokyo are hardly backwaters in need of a PR boost.

If tackling obesity is such a priority, I’m sure there’s more direct and effective ways to tackle it with 11 billion quid.

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Post by pinko »

Wiles_7 wrote: post #106
gitgud wrote: post #94

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> Olympics has 339 events, each with a gold, silver, and bronze medal. Many events are team-based too, where every team member gets a medal.

Some sports also give out multiple bronze medals.

Interesting -- I had no idea!

From wikipedia: 'Some combat sports (such as boxing, judo, taekwondo and wrestling) award two bronze medals per competition, resulting in, overall, more bronze medals being awarded than the other colours."

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Post by dillondoyle »

Frost1x wrote: post #91

I was curious about the medals, compositions, and materials costs so here's what I found. The dimensions of the medals are specified as a minimum of 60mm diameter by 3mm thick. For a cylinder, that's 8.482 cm^3 volume per medal, minimum. The 2020 Olympics has 339 events, each with a gold, silver, and bronze medal. Market price I found for gold as of this post is $58.56/g and silver is $0.82/g. Gold has a density of 1…

Cool fast math! Seems like the cost to give out actual gold is super tiny compared to the amount the olympic committee charges for the games. They should give out solid gold or at least 18k to make it last longer with fewer scratches.

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Post by mikepurvis »

pinko wrote: post #138
Wiles_7 wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some sports also give out multiple bronze medals.

Interesting -- I had no idea! From wikipedia: 'Some combat sports (such as boxing, judo, taekwondo and wrestling) award two bronze medals per competition, resulting in, overall, more bronze medals being awarded than the other colours."

The occasional tie could also push it the other way— an additional gold at the expense of a silver or likewise with two silvers instead of a silver + bronze.

A handy dandy list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ties_for_medals_at_the...

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