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what do you mean by invade? Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong are undoubtedly belongs to China. Sure the tightening is not good in a lot of ways, but I keep seeing the western media trying to convince the world that these regions should be 'independent', I wonder why they are doing that.
The "undoubtedly belong to China" is the narrative from the CCP and not shared by many, especially peoples living in and native to those regions.
America should allow open immigration from Hong Kong for a year. China by all rights has a claim to the land. But the people who want freedom should have it and we should take them in.
The UK has already allowed open immigration from Hong Kong, specifically in response to the Chinese National Security Law, but I'm not sure that this is really any solution.
t. non-BNO-Holder.
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All right, how about this. Instead of parroting a common nationalist talking point (that is common across the globe) that is little more than a knee-jerk reaction to allow for blanket dismissal of criticism, how about you raise the level of the discussion by naming a set of experts on the PRC with a variety of positive/negative perspectives that you do recognise as qualified to speak on this subject?
politics is not common sense. it is really complicated. anyway, you are free to express your option.
I m in HK and I don't know what to think. Between protestors destroying the streets like monkeys and the country punishing everyone using this as an excuse, we're well surrounded :D Hong Kong shouldn't be independent but is China the right country for us, is how I jokingly troll both extremes. End of the day nobody cares, we're still discussing who elect the mayor of the city and people are talking like we're losing…
Based on one of your previous comments looks like you are from France and living in China > I come from France where we have the tradition to use saints' names (mine is a very classical example) and I moved to China and got a daughter there with my local wife. It might not be correct to comment on local HK.
So I'm getting politically excited, shouldn't I ?
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I had an coworker who lived in Israel. I mentioned that I’d love to visit, but was nervous due to violence/terrorism. She just snorted and said she felt the same way about coming to the US. We both realized that our fears were blown way out of proportion due to media sensationalism. Anyway, the streets are fine.
Now, think again about what media says about the Chinese government.
America should allow open immigration from Hong Kong for a year. China by all rights has a claim to the land. But the people who want freedom should have it and we should take them in.
I m in HK and I don't know what to think. Between protestors destroying the streets like monkeys and the country punishing everyone using this as an excuse, we're well surrounded :D Hong Kong shouldn't be independent but is China the right country for us, is how I jokingly troll both extremes. End of the day nobody cares, we're still discussing who elect the mayor of the city and people are talking like we're losing…
> destroying the streets like monkeys And from an NPR interview covering the book 'Less Than Human' > Nazis referred to Jews as rats. > Hutus involved in the Rwanda genocide called Tutsis cockroaches. > Slave owners throughout history considered slaves subhuman animals Dehumanisation. It's so frequently accompanied by dehumanisation. You are truly intolerable, in the exact Karl Popper sense and we shouldn't tolerate…
But I d never call them cockroaches and I find it shocking the police does, if that reassures you... and I dont really dislike monkeys, just I find them a bit more disorganized than I wish political activists aiming at a higher level of government would be.
I dont disagree with the beautiful cause, just the ugly means, like for the communists.
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Just let the HK people decide. You know thats not going to happen because noone wants to be Chinese. Even the fucking Chinese dont want to be Chinese.
It's really sad to see that even hacker news has now been plagued by sinophobic racism
It’s not sinophobic to say that the Chinese government and the CCP are messed up. I don’t doubt that many Chinese people would rather they weren’t subjected to that regime.
That is entirely separate from hatred/fear/negativity toward Chinese people and/or their culture.
I wanted to write "sad day for Hong Kong", but I realized it's been more like a sad year and a half for HK, if not longer. One wonders how long can CCP keep doing the same thing again and again. I guess we shall see. My heart goes to those in HK.
From CCP's point of view, there is absolutely no advantage in giving democracy to citizens of HK. The only objective of HK is to be (economically) "prosperous" and "stable, quoting from official slogans.
Many mainlanders come to HK for its high salary, often more than double that of Shenzhen and Shanghai, and even more compared to smaller cities in China. I think the salary of professionals in HK exceeds at least Taiwan, Japan, some of Europe, among others.
Last year's District Council elections resulted in a landslide of anti-establishment getting in office. Then CCP decided this is not acceptable and stripped them of the right to vote for the head of HK. But this view is never shared in the years before, where the District Council is filled with pro-establishment parties like DAB.
Considering economical "prosperity" is the only metric of success as seen by CCP to HK, no wonder they are doing this move to further make HK "stable".
That said, I think the best move for us HKers is to work overseas whenever possible. Shameless plug: HKU EE/CS graduate here up for hire.
If we cannot beat them, at least we should get to see it burn to ground. Laam Chau.
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> start discussing how we elect the president of our country lmao
> start discussing how we elect the president of our country >lmao Shill logic is always easy to spot xD and its always hilarious. Is HN so mainstream that political bot are sent to spam their propaganda here?
If it's propaganda to ask the communists to give us the right to vote, then the country has progressed :D