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Re: Migrate Everything from Linux to BSD

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Post by subsection1h »

qwantim1 wrote: post #44
vinkelhake wrote: post #14

"Linux is fragmented", and then goes on to list Free, Open, Net, Dragonfly and avoids listing a few more. "Poettering creepware". Web developers who use Google Analytics are "stupid". This is emotion-driven drivel.

> Linux is fragmented It’s actually quite an astute observation. I read recently that there are over 600 Linux distros and only about 500 are actively maintained. > Web developers who use Google Analytics are stupid. The adjective is wrong, but it’s also fair to say that there are free solutions for analytics, and some may go straight to using GA when they don’t need to.

> I read recently that there are over 600 Linux distros

How old are you? Everyone knows there are many Linux distros. Distrowatch has existed for almost 20 years. The issue isn't the number of distros; it's the marketshare. There are only a few distros with significant usage. The fact that there are many others is irrelevant because no one uses them.

Re: Migrate Everything from Linux to BSD

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Post by crazy_hombre »

dcassett wrote: post #24

I recently moved my home systems from Ubuntu to Debian because Ubuntu dropped 32-bit support (I have a mix of 64 and 32-bit and wanted to keep them on the same OS). The installer didn't work on my oldest laptop from 2003 with a new mSATA SSD IDE adapter (it hung when formatting the SSD). In the process of debugging the problem I tried FreeBSD for the first time, which not only installed successfully but even supporte…

FreeBSD 13 is moving the i386 architecture to tier 2 status, so looks like the days of 32-bit support in FreeBSD might be numbered as well: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2021-Ja...

Re: Migrate Everything from Linux to BSD

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Post by stjohnswarts »

Jkvngt wrote: post #113

I’m doing this right now. Linux has gotten too large, bloated, corporate. It no longer feels like a community project and there are quite a few recent move that make me question whether or not it will be viable down the line.

You'll be back :)

Re: Migrate Everything from Linux to BSD

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Post by znpy »

brian_cunnie wrote: post #25
vinkelhake wrote: post #14

"Linux is fragmented", and then goes on to list Free, Open, Net, Dragonfly and avoids listing a few more. "Poettering creepware". Web developers who use Google Analytics are "stupid". This is emotion-driven drivel.

I noticed that, too: the author doesn't mention the many-splendored versions of *BSD. My personal favorite is FreeBSD. I like Linux, but I have mixed feelings about systemd, especially when I discovered that systemd runs its own DNS server, which prevents the DNS server I wrote from binding to port 53 using INADDR_ANY. Instead, I had to write code to enumerate the interfaces & corresponding IP addresses & bind to eac…

Fair things about DNS, you can make systemd not work without systemd-resolved, btw.

The nice thing about systemd-resolved is that it make enabling split-tunnel vpns a breeze.

Re: Migrate Everything from Linux to BSD

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Post by znpy »

willismichael wrote: post #52
dTal wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

systemd isn't an init system and doesn't pretend to be one [note] - it's OS middleware with ambitions to becoming a distro unto itself. The systemd project assumes responsibility for numerous aspects of the system that have no technical justification for being under the same project umbrella. You might like systemd-homed, for instance, but it doesn't really have anything to do with the functions of init. Calling it a…

Honest question, if nobody likes systemd, then why is it still around and why is it so difficult for me to find a distro that hasn't adopted it?

Because people like systemd.

It's one of those situations where the minority that doesn't like systemd is just a lot more noisy than the vast majority that likes it.

Easy as that.

Re: Migrate Everything from Linux to BSD

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Post by nobody9999 »

magila wrote: post #42
brian_cunnie wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed that, too: the author doesn't mention the many-splendored versions of *BSD. My personal favorite is FreeBSD. I like Linux, but I have mixed feelings about systemd, especially when I discovered that systemd runs its own DNS server, which prevents the DNS server I wrote from binding to port 53 using INADDR_ANY. Instead, I had to write code to enumerate the interfaces & corresponding IP addresses & bind to eac…

You know you turn that DNS server off by adding "DNSStubListener=no" to /etc/systemd/resolved.conf right?

> You know you turn that DNS server off by adding "DNSStubListener=no" to /etc/systemd/resolved.conf right?

I suppose you could do that. although I prefer: systemctl disable systemd-resolved systemctl mask systemd-resolved

Then it's dead and will stay that way.

Re: Migrate Everything from Linux to BSD

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Post by 0dayz »

Spivak wrote: post #41
vinkelhake wrote: post #14

"Linux is fragmented", and then goes on to list Free, Open, Net, Dragonfly and avoids listing a few more. "Poettering creepware". Web developers who use Google Analytics are "stupid". This is emotion-driven drivel.

I really don’t get the weird cult of people seemingly obsessed with Lennart. The man sets out to solve really hard problems in the Linux desktop space, isn’t afraid of tackling complexity when it shows up in the problem domain, and is obsessed with correctness. That last one gets him in trouble from people who want him to be more pragmatic but I personally really appreciate it. I really admire him for being the poste…

From what I remember, it comes from him having quite the dismissive attitude.

Re: Migrate Everything from Linux to BSD

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Post by 1_player »

znpy wrote: post #134
brian_cunnie wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed that, too: the author doesn't mention the many-splendored versions of *BSD. My personal favorite is FreeBSD. I like Linux, but I have mixed feelings about systemd, especially when I discovered that systemd runs its own DNS server, which prevents the DNS server I wrote from binding to port 53 using INADDR_ANY. Instead, I had to write code to enumerate the interfaces & corresponding IP addresses & bind to eac…

Fair things about DNS, you can make systemd not work without systemd-resolved, btw. The nice thing about systemd-resolved is that it make enabling split-tunnel vpns a breeze.

And provides out of the box DNS caching, like any modern operating system.

Do Linux users really want their year on the desktop, or will they keep complaining at any change to get there?

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