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Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Post by ABeeSea »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #130
ABeeSea wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might be because the country is run by a dictator who is intent on crippling the US’s diplomatic and economic power.

You are a propaganda victim. He never intended to cripple the US, he simply lacks enough power to do it. Why would he want it, anyway? It's a county where his children will likely live (like children of most Soviet leaders since Stalin), his assets are stored in US currency, too. I guess he is quite happy with people like you believing in his overinflated image of a powerful adversary to the US, but in reality he's j…

That’s why the Russian government hacked into a vast amount of US computer networks. No ill intentions there.

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Post by whycombagator »

> According to the affidavit filed with the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, the FBI received a tip from someone who stated they were a former romantic partner of Williams.

> The tipster said Williams “intended to send the computer device to a friend in Russia, who then planned to sell the device to SVR, Russia’s foreign intelligence service,” the affidavit stated.

> According to the tipster, “the transfer of the computer device to Russia fell through for unknown reasons and Williams still has the computer device or destroyed it,” the affidavit stated. The investigation remains open.

That sounds like very concrete evidence...

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Post by dang »

eT8AZithxooKei6 wrote: post #31

Truly the work of a patriot who loves America.

Please don't post unsubstantive and/or flamebait to HN, regardless of how strongly you disagree with or feel about something. It leads to significantly lower-quality discussion. Perhaps you don't owe them better, but you owe this community better if you're posting here.

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Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Post by _y5hn »

eps wrote: post #123
cpursley wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an American living in Russia, not really. Russian people overall have a very positive attitude towards the US and Americans and are able to differentiate people from their government. Even the official Russian propaganda (Channel 1, etc) has a less harsh depiction of America compared to how US media portrays Russia. All the Russia hate in the US right now doesn't even make an effort separate the politics from the…

You are living in a bubble. General prevailing opinion of Americans - the proverbial stereotype - is that they are arrogant cowboys, and that being put mildly. You ain't likely to hear that directed at you, but it slips through the cracks all the time. You just need to pay a bit closer attention.

Most people tend to be able to differentiate individuals from paper-thin stereotypes. Sure we get exposed to stereotypes all the time, but when you get to know people you see through that.

Most people behave differently too, once you really get to know them.

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Post by dang »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #27
ABeeSea wrote: post #21

The fed were tipped off by an ex. The most telling part of the terrorist attack on the capital is how many family members, coworkers, and acquaintances couldn’t wait to turn them in. There was a story this morning about a wife turning in her husband for threatening to shoot their children if the children “snitched.” https://www.thedailybeast.com/capitol-rioter-guy-reffitt-thr...

Somebody has to fill out the left half of the bell curve.

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Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Post by chowyuncat »

idownvoted wrote: post #90

As a foreigner with limited knowledge about the powers of a US House Speaker: What value would a laptop of Nancy Pelosi provide to a foreign government, if it doesn’t include incriminating content? I‘m not suggesting that this story is bogus, but rather that Riley June Williams hopes were and she vastly overestimated the laptop’s value to anyone.

Imagine the use of the word deplorable to describe certain people. This would be then used in an election campaign to favor an opposition candidate who would vote against Russian sanctions.

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Post by naikrovek »

netsharc wrote: post #76
naikrovek wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure we all know that the ultimate consumer of something like this is not a Russian neighborhood bread store owner, but the Russian government. I don't think it needs to be said to be understood.

Well, this language isn't useful, a Russian friend of mine, who is quite modern, not a fan of Putin or anything, said she'd prefer Trump to win, because Biden said "Russians are our enemy" (not sure if Biden actually said that, and even if he said "Russian government", the media could've edited "government" out of that quote).

So because someone heard something else said to someone else, I have to change what I say?

[confusion]

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Post by dang »

trianglem wrote: post #114
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somebody has to fill out the left half of the bell curve.

That’s the qanon side of the curve

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Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Post by eps »

_y5hn wrote: post #134
eps wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are living in a bubble. General prevailing opinion of Americans - the proverbial stereotype - is that they are arrogant cowboys, and that being put mildly. You ain't likely to hear that directed at you, but it slips through the cracks all the time. You just need to pay a bit closer attention.

Most people tend to be able to differentiate individuals from paper-thin stereotypes. Sure we get exposed to stereotypes all the time, but when you get to know people you see through that. Most people behave differently too, once you really get to know them.

Yep, absolutely.

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Post by sgent »

idownvoted wrote: post #90

As a foreigner with limited knowledge about the powers of a US House Speaker: What value would a laptop of Nancy Pelosi provide to a foreign government, if it doesn’t include incriminating content? I‘m not suggesting that this story is bogus, but rather that Riley June Williams hopes were and she vastly overestimated the laptop’s value to anyone.

House speaker is 2nd in line for the president, and she has the highest security clearance in the government and is briefed on all major intelligence / national security operations -- although I doubt any of that was on this computer.

The house decides the budget for the entire federal government (so black budgets, NSA, etc.) and most of their work is public, but at least some of it is classified and other parts are politically sensitive.

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