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Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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My Dell Latitude's fingerprint sensor worked under Ubuntu in 2014.

Not sure how this is relevant to a discussion about Lenovo laptops

XPSs are Dell.

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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I don't see what this will do that kvm can't already do? Seems like a wasted effort.

it enables hyper-v on linux. the whole point is that it does something different.

So what does it do then?

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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If we assume this is technically sound and so on, is there a political dimension that will be considered before merging this? Such as "this will decrease Linux marketplace penetration in this-and-this niche"? I know that Linux is not a company etc so a direct comparison is awkward, but there can still be such considerations weighing in, perhaps...?

Anyone who's hosting Hyper-V VMs on Windows can now move to Linux and host those VMs under the same Hyper-V environment they were before. I'm not sure how many do this and, frankly, I'm quite surprised Microsoft does it on Azure.

Of course, you can run those same VMs under KVM under a Linux OS, so it's not some new capability.

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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The only reason I am still using windows is MS office. I might give it a try myself... My home machine is running Arch linux and works flawlessly for more then two years already. Just my work is still stucked with a lot of documentations sharing between some other people and I need MS office programs which have no alternative in open-source word. well, the office.com looks promising these days and I hope to switch co…

This reads like a Slashdot post from 1998.

It even predates Arch Linux by a few years.

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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it enables hyper-v on linux. the whole point is that it does something different.

So what does it do then?

I believe the biggest difference is that, unlike KVM, Hyper V causes money to change hands.

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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Sorry for the ignorance, but what does this mean? I understand from the article that the patch allows the full Hyper-V stack to run on a linux-based machine (as opposed to previously needing windows to run the root partition). But what does _that_ mean to have the ability to run Hyper-V entirely on linux? Is it just a "good to have options" thing?

It probably means they want to leverage out the existing open source VM software so they can make one with proprietary Windows support (at some point down the line). There is a long history of this in the past with Microsoft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...

Everyone should be afraid of this, even the Microsoft employees commenting here. Look at the 737 MAX post on the front page for another example of management corrupting engineering

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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I can understand some people have specific needs and have to use software like that, but I wouldn't say an OS doesn't work just because you can't use some software on it. You can't also have Omnigraffle for Windows, yet nobody would say Windows doesn't work for that reason.

Excel is, in and of itself, a single reason alone for many people in various industries to own or operate a computer. If computers no longer ran Excel, they would buy a dedicated Excel Machine to do it, and put it on their desk next to their computer. You can make a similar argument about Premiere and After Effects, although the fact that Resolve runs on Linux is helping the situation a little. The Autodesk products…

>> Excel is, in and of itself, a single reason alone for many people in various industries to own or operate a computer.

I had a client that suffered an excel/windows ransomware attack. It started with a macro or something in an excel document that, for some reason, everybody seemed to open. My inbox was flooded with "do no open anything" emails. Then the CEO called me to check on the data I had stored on my systems. "Remember when I said I didn't use windows? Your data, at least the copy I have, is safe."

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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It doesn't matter how the hypervisor is arranged, but it is still just a virtual machine. Just because it happens to run on a type1 vs type2 hypervisor means not much, or just go ask around whether Xen is any faster than KVM these days.

But the filesystem integration is much better than a VM in macOS, being able to run Window programs from Linux, etc. Also, Windows has decent X11 servers that work well with retina displays, which can't be said of XQuartz.

Also networking. e.g. you can spin up a Node.js server in Linux then connect to it with Chrome on Windows at http://localhost

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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Agree with the non-availability of multiwindow Settings, but the UI of Settings seems to mimic iOS and Android settings, which in my opinion, modern, simple, and familiar. The Control Panel UI seems so complex nowadays.

I don't think having a similar UI as mobile is very good for the user since the input mode is very different. I think macOS does way better here with a minimal use of white space because I can easily have a browser open on the side to look up what I'm trying to change - though some things do appear a bit old school (e.g. networking).

The Settings app in Windows works very well with mouse and the wasted whitespace only appears when it's maximized, the app was made to be responsive with several windows sizes.
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