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Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by bootlooped »

jayd16 wrote: post #103
thoraway1010 wrote: post #25

No kidding. Early adopter of gsuite for domains (work and personal email). The google home devices CANNOT get your calendar from your google calendar. My Alexa device can easily. The thing of stuff just stagnating and no care to scrub the rough corners is crazy. They have some things they keep on improving. I think youtube is there (after the dumped plus thank goodness). Chrome seems to be moving along nicely. I used…

I can only assume they don't want to make it work for some reason. The best practical answer is to just set up a normal gmail account and a lot of weird google bugs go away.

I have a normal Gmail account, and the last time I checked Google Home could only access my primary calendar. So my imported-from-Outlook work calendar and any other custom calendars are invisible to it. It just just frustrating to look at calendar.google.com and say "there they are, my appointments!" and Google Home cannot read them unless they are on the default calendar.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by timw4mail »

thoraway1010 wrote: post #25

No kidding. Early adopter of gsuite for domains (work and personal email). The google home devices CANNOT get your calendar from your google calendar. My Alexa device can easily. The thing of stuff just stagnating and no care to scrub the rough corners is crazy. They have some things they keep on improving. I think youtube is there (after the dumped plus thank goodness). Chrome seems to be moving along nicely. I used…

Youtube is a slow boated Javascript mess.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by johannes1234321 »

ancarda wrote: post #81
searchableguy wrote: post #17

I am getting tired of these google articles. I know how this will go, users will pat themselves for using duckduckgo, open street maps, firefox and fastmail anytime now.

I've never met anyone who uses OSM. I have just shy of 500 edits on OSM because I kept going to use it, finding it didn't have what I was looking for, and making improvements. It would be nice if there was a viable alternative to Google Maps. Apple Maps is apparently not too bad, but I'm using Android and Linux these days.

For a non-tech person using OSM is hard. openstreetmap.org isn't an end-user site, but aimed at contributors.

Other sites however incorporate osm (Facebook, Apple etc.) into their offerings.

I'd like if openstreetmap.org would be improved accordingly, but I myself don't do more than pointing at other volunteers.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by SahAssar »

thoraway1010 wrote: post #25

No kidding. Early adopter of gsuite for domains (work and personal email). The google home devices CANNOT get your calendar from your google calendar. My Alexa device can easily. The thing of stuff just stagnating and no care to scrub the rough corners is crazy. They have some things they keep on improving. I think youtube is there (after the dumped plus thank goodness). Chrome seems to be moving along nicely. I used…

> Android / Chrome are amazing - why not put the execs like this in charge of shipping everything?

Android / Chrome are providing what is primarily a platform, not a product. That's a very different mindset and way of working.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by franze »

Another micro example of how bad Google is nowadays:

The sitemap.xml API is deliberately broken for 1 1/2 years by now. The response does no longer deliver an indexed value back other than 0 or a frozen number form years ago. After I found out about it a few months later there was a tweet and blogpost about it.

The documentation was never updated ... https://developers.google.com/webmaster-tools/search-console...

My guess, there is no one responsible anymore, hey it just is a 200k people company ...

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by alexpetralia »

tengbretson wrote: post #71

It boggles my mind to imagine how many verticals in the technology space have been kneecapped because of google. There could be so many companies that could offer amazing services but they just can't compete with a half-assed "free" service made by Google, which is just a temporary cost center for all the ad revenue they don't know what to do with.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limit_price

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by searchableguy »

ancarda wrote: post #128
searchableguy wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well, I use osmodroid. I am sure you can find many here. I do want to contribute more after I have other things sorted. Wish you didn't have to worry about being poor. I agree with you that HN is a bubble which is what I meant by my comment. We need to do something to take it mainstream than patting ourselves here over and over again. Talk about how ways we can do that. I don't like google articles because we waste t…

>Wish you didn't have to worry about being poor. What? Are you suggesting I don't use iOS and macOS because I can't afford Apple's hardware? I have multiple Macs and iPhones in the house - I recently switched because I don't like Apple's direction. Not because I can't afford their products.

No. you are wildly misunderstanding me. I mean I can't devote more time to contributing to open street maps or other open source projects because of the worry.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by dgellow »

dfabulich wrote: post #40
jtbayly wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the four monopolies?

Search, Maps, YouTube, Chrome. (They all have competitors, some more successful than others.) A bunch of people have listed Gmail on their lists, but Gmail is not even close to a monopoly, even in consumer email. https://email-verify.my-addr.com/list-of-most-popular-email-...

I have 2 remarkes:

- that's from 2016

- that seems to be worldwide (I see for example swiss and french providers in the list), which isn't necessarily relevant. Gmail can be a monopoly in the US for example, while not being one worldwide.

Unfortunately I cannot find better numbers, if someone does that would be interesting to discuss.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by monksy »

abc_lisper wrote: post #101

It is well known the incentives at Google are aligned at working on new features than maintaining them and keeping users happy. May be this is just a natural outcome of that. This is one of the most damaging things Google and the people it influenced did to programming profession. There is a generation of programmers now who can do very well on leetcode, but god help those who maintain that code after them - I know t…

HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST THAT THESE LEET DEVS DO SUPPORT! They have that outsourced to non-employees/non-paid individuals via forums.
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