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Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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post #71

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The implementation that ships with the system is somewhat poor.

I think it’s dependent on the app. Lots of third party apps don’t seem to correctly implement listening for the theme change. In Chrome, for example, I always have the Dev Tools open in a separate window, and the theme seems to change while my Mac is awake, but if the theme is supposed to change while my Mac is asleep, it won’t ever change even after waking the machine up.

No, this is the system theme. I run additional scripts to keep apps in line with the system if they need help.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

#133

Personally I appreciate the ability to switch color modes. I've found that when reading articles or text I like dark text on a white background. So news apps are kept in light mode. For development i like that darker themes allows me to see the syntax highlighting better. Plus my partner loves the "rainbow text" and knows when I'm working "matrix time" :)

Same for me. For reading articles, give me black text on black background please. For code editor, issue tracker, terminal it’s always dark mode

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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The most important part is preference IMO. People have the right to choose which is right for them, and if they determine that dark mode is better for them (even if they just think it looks better), having a setting in the OS that cascades down to all applications and websites is just a nice feature to have. This is why prefers-color-scheme is the perfect mechanism for this. Simply swap out your CSS variables and aut…

Thank you. Everything else around this dicussion is pointless. If some people like light or dark mode thats up to them to choose. At least we're getting some choice back in our UIs.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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>Customize your device for your comfort. I think the better advice is, customize your environment for your comfort. Often the reason why people use dark mode is that they use their devices in badly lit environments . It's not a good idea to stare into a bright monitor in a dark room, and the dark mode is arguably the wrong fix for the problem. Reading in dimly lit rooms is known to cause headaches and eye strain and…

> Reading in dimly lit rooms is known to cause headaches and eye strain and should generally be avoided. If you’re reading something purely reflective like paper, sure. If you’re reading a screen that is shooting rays of light directly into your eyeballs though?

IIRC:

Dimly lit room + brightly lit cube means that whenever your vision tracks outside of the cube it will have to adjust the opening of the iris. Doing this a lot will tire your eyes out. My interpretation of this is that we should try to have about the same light level across our work spaces and that this should be a mean between long term comfort and readability. I think most of us could probably benefit from larger font sizes as well which feel easier to read in lower light to me.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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I prefer light mode, but I get why people like dark. I think the problem with light mode is that the default approach is black on white. Dark mode almost always has lower contrast between foreground and background.

Back when users were still allowed to make decisions, I usually changed the background in Windows text controls from white to a light, warm gray.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

#137
post #76

Apparently light-on-dark is terrible if the person has astigmatism: the edges get very blurry and doubled. There was an article on HN about this, specifically about keynote slides. Also apparently “in Europe and Asia, astigmatism affects between 30 and 60% of adults” (says Wikipedia). I have it too, and couldn't figure out in the past why text sometimes looks horribly blurry and sometimes doesn't. With this knowledge…

That's true for me as well. I couldn't read the oven clock (blue on black) at just 10 feet away. Anything bright on a dark background is just a blurry radiation pattern. The reason dark-themed terminal and coding is fine, might be the monospace fonts. They are square-ish, so there is less need to find the edges accurately. They are also eligible on very cheap, trashy screens. As a side effect, code is readable in dar…

> code is readable in dark themes even with astigmatism

It doesn't make anything by itself, the difference in brightness between text and background is. I have a severe astigmatism on one eye, HN page with smaller font size is easier to read with it than a green-on-black terminal (same Noto Mono font). Red or blue colors for text on black background are also slightly harder to read due to the perception.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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post #101

Anyone presenting (conference/projector) or screen recording for YouTube absolutely should not use dark mode if they want their content to be visible to the largest percentage of viewers. Dark mode is inherently lower contrast, and most displays perform worse on dark content. Plus, some of us like to be outside. With bright sunlit ambient light (not even necessarily direct), dark mode content is practically invisible…

Hahaha ... I teach software development for a living and the first thing we have to students when they start presenting their work is always “please switch to light mode”.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

#139

No one seems to be mentioning the lighting of the room you're in, inside/outside, or the time of day. Ambient light is one of the primary factors that make light or dark mode better at a particular moment. See redshift to make light mode more tolerable at night.

Exactly this. I don't use dark mode during the day, but sure as hell dark mode by night saves my eyes.

I use light mode when I am working outside (which is a lot now that I work from home) or when I am at the office as it's got bright lights. At night or when I am in a darker environment in general, dark mode is great. Being able to quickly adjust the screen brightness also helps immensely (more so than the actual mode, actually... if I had to choose a single mode, it would be light mode, as dark mode is totally un-usable in a very light room/outside).

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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post #106

"Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?" Yes, it is. One thing is reading a newspaper in which text amounts to a good percentage of the available area, and the rest reflects ambient light, and a whole different thing is a screen with some text in the middle and the free area emitting white light right to my eyes, de facto saturating them. I would never read a white text on black paper newspaper, neither in the dark nor in th…

It is likely that you have your display brightness too high. Indoors, in light mode, most modern screens need to be set at 50% or lower brightness.

Hold a piece of paper next to the display. If a white background on the display (e.g. open Notepad) is noticeably brighter than the paper, dial down the display's brightness.

At work my brightness dial is down to 0. At home it's at 16.

It looks wrong at first, but you'll get used to it within a day or so. Colleagues coming to your desk will remark upon it.

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