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Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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Are you on latest Mac OS? You can set it to switch at sunset.

The implementation that ships with the system is somewhat poor.

I think it’s dependent on the app. Lots of third party apps don’t seem to correctly implement listening for the theme change. In Chrome, for example, I always have the Dev Tools open in a separate window, and the theme seems to change while my Mac is awake, but if the theme is supposed to change while my Mac is asleep, it won’t ever change even after waking the machine up.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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They taught us this in advertising. White text scatters over the iris on a dark background, so it’s harder to read the copy. I’ve even read it in UX articles. It was amusing to get out of school and into the tech industry to find dark mode everywhere. Granted, I use it too. Both my terminal and editor have dark themes. I’m not really sure why. The terminal isn’t really a big deal to me. I could go either way there. B…

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Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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They taught us this in advertising. White text scatters over the iris on a dark background, so it’s harder to read the copy. I’ve even read it in UX articles. It was amusing to get out of school and into the tech industry to find dark mode everywhere. Granted, I use it too. Both my terminal and editor have dark themes. I’m not really sure why. The terminal isn’t really a big deal to me. I could go either way there. B…

For a light color theme with a slightly different take than usual, I would recommend Flatwhite. The differentiating idea behind it is that for dark syntax themes, it makes sense to have the foreground of text be different colors. In contrast, for light syntax themes, it makes sense to have the background of text be different colors. Atom: https://github.com/biletskyy/flatwhite-syntax Sublime Text 3: https://github.co…

Thought it looked familiar, and I realized I saw the idea in an old Nikita Propokov screencast. Nice to see him mentioned there and Clojure code as an example.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

#75

No one seems to be mentioning the lighting of the room you're in, inside/outside, or the time of day. Ambient light is one of the primary factors that make light or dark mode better at a particular moment. See redshift to make light mode more tolerable at night.

F.lux deserves a mention

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

#76
Apparently light-on-dark is terrible if the person has astigmatism: the edges get very blurry and doubled. There was an article on HN about this, specifically about keynote slides. Also apparently “in Europe and Asia, astigmatism affects between 30 and 60% of adults” (says Wikipedia).

I have it too, and couldn't figure out in the past why text sometimes looks horribly blurry and sometimes doesn't. With this knowledge, I realized that dark background is likely a factor.

So I like dark mode for the OS interface because it gets out of my way then, and just plain looks better. Same in apps where I click on icons and look at images, like in image editors. For reading, dark mode is torture—both with bright white text and low-contrast dark. When sites begin to switch to the dark mode following the browser, I'll have to disable that in the browser settings or deal with bright system and app interface.

However, why I can and do code with dark themes is a mystery. I even tried to bend Emacs to use a light theme for Org-mode and a dark one otherwise (not much luck, though).

I do wish that screens in the ‘light mode’ were closer to paper in terms of eye comfort. I had an e-ink device, and it was a godsend, pure bliss—you'd think that lower contrast would make reading harder but no. Something like HN's ‘black on a bit grayish with a hint of red’ emulates the experience somewhat. Just don't make text gray, please.

In related news, I'm irked that I can't have high monitor brightness for photographic images but lower for swathes of white background under text and in Jony Ive's bright flat windows. Because, you know, photos don't tend to have flood-fill of 100% white. Maybe I'll kludge something up for the browser to amend this.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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No one seems to be mentioning the lighting of the room you're in, inside/outside, or the time of day. Ambient light is one of the primary factors that make light or dark mode better at a particular moment. See redshift to make light mode more tolerable at night.

I just change the brightness of the monitor twice a day.

One more nice thing that some computers do is automatically adjusting brightness depending on your ambient light. Like phones which have dedicated light sensor. But at least my computer uses webcam (or sensor near a webcam) to determine ambient brightness and adjust monitor brightness. EDIT. ah, yes, and i don't use external monitor. But makes me think, why monitor manufacturers have not added that one light sensor to their products.

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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For a light color theme with a slightly different take than usual, I would recommend Flatwhite. The differentiating idea behind it is that for dark syntax themes, it makes sense to have the foreground of text be different colors. In contrast, for light syntax themes, it makes sense to have the background of text be different colors. Atom: https://github.com/biletskyy/flatwhite-syntax Sublime Text 3: https://github.co…

Ooo, I like this. This seems like a close-ish replacement in VSCode but the pic doesn't even exist: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=esz.them...

I don't think VS Code actually supports background color styles for syntax highlighting.

https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/3429

I ran into this trying to do a Code theme a few months ago. (My favorite light theme -- and I am mostly a light theme person, as I have never believed dark mode was a particularly good idea except for terminal windows -- is the default theme from the all-but-defunct Mac editor Espresso, which used subtle background coloring in some places.)

Re: Is Dark Mode Such a Good Idea?

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No one seems to be mentioning the lighting of the room you're in, inside/outside, or the time of day. Ambient light is one of the primary factors that make light or dark mode better at a particular moment. See redshift to make light mode more tolerable at night.

F.lux deserves a mention

It was so successful that the basic functionality is built into every OS I can think of these days.
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