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Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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On the other hand, they could support freedom of speech by not limiting access. They do block access, therefore suppressing freedom of speech. Arguing with "they're just saving resources" is ridiculous, especially when considering Google's wealth.

You have moved the goalposts dramatically. What started as "random files in Google Drive are being scanned for conspiracy theories and deleted", which would be incredibly worrying, is now "Google should give me tens of thousands of dollars worth of free stuff", which is not all that worrying.

How is it 'free stuff' when many people pay for Google Drive?

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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Censoring is a losing battle. Because it attacks a symptom. The cure for ignorance is not trying to hide missinformation (that just empowers the spreaders, gives it credence (they wouldn't bother suppressing it if it weren't true), or drives it into dark places you can no longer detect how much of a problem it is). The cure is to educate people and teach them critical thinking (both of which are expensive and honestl…

Most people dont have the capacity for critical thought on every area of ambiguity/complexity. Its too wide a thought surface, and we have too few hours in a day. So we have things like dictionaries in our minds, filled with information via lots of sources from childhood, tv, peers, etc. Human brains arent logical, they are mostly look up systems.

> Most people don't have the capacity for critical thought on every area of ambiguity/complexity.

I'd change that to "most people haven't been taught to think critically". It's clear that the average person has the mental capacity, genetic variations in intelligence aren't that large.

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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From the article, it seems like they stopped public sharing of the video via Google Drive: > In an article reporting on the takedown, The Washington Post’s Silicon Valley Correspondent Elizabeth Dwoskin complains that after the coronavirus documentary Plandemic was censored on social media, some YouTube clips were telling users how to access “banned footage” from the documentary via Google Drive. > She then notes tha…

So "journalists" are now colluding with platforms to censor information. Brave new world.

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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This is crossing a very bad line, and is absolutely unacceptable. My company of about 50 people on G-Suite will be canceling our subscription and moving to Office 365 within the next three months. We had discussed it in the past due to their history of flagrant disregard for the security and privacy standards we require, but this has galvanized the conversation and we're prioritizing it on the near-term now. I'm sure…

You gotta fight! For your right! To misssssleeeeead. It might be more prudent to be careful about accepting what you read at first glance; why would google allow someone to stream data (against policy for the product), let alone when that content violates their policies on their content streaming networks? Do you think they should leave up public to other content that violates their policies, just because it's tied t…

If you’re only in favor of free speech that doesn’t mislead, you’re not in favor of free speech.

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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post #83

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Name any ISP in America that will distribute your video worldwide for free.

All of them. You only pay for the ongoing connection/overall throughput/capacity. The entire world will be able to hit any server I put up and expose to the Net, and the content being served flows on through the ISP being none the wiser; despite excessive legislative and executive efforts to encourage otherwise. Now, you've got the potential for QoS shenanigans, but I'm certain most people would wake up to the hard a…

I think you may have overlooked the critical words "for free". Data traffic costs money.

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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post #81

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Yes, it turns out the the web is not, in fact, a giant virtual seastead unbothered by the norms and rules of society. If you distribute information via computer networks it will be subject to scrutiny to see if it is malware, copyrighted by someone else, exploitative, seditious, etc.

Or someone deems it "misinformation", whatever that means.

Just a guess but I think it means it promotes a bunch of false claims about COVID that could lead to people getting hurt or killed.

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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post #87

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Also, freedom of speech is not guaranteed on a privately owned platform... not sure why anyone expects that.

A lot of "free speech advocates" like to engage in redefinition when it comes to free speech. It becomes some ill-defined ideal that's basically "freedom from consequences of speech" instead of the strict legal definition.

Actually - usually it's requiring others to promote, pay for or echo their speech.

I'm free to speak, and make you speak what I want, and pay for my speech, but YOU can't make me say things I don't want to.

Huh? Stand on a soapbox. Get a group together to promote your ideas. You can do all of this without going to jail, but google doesn't have to pay huge amounts to pump out your BS.

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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It's 1984 in 2020 all over again. Paging Mr. Orwell...

Your take is an overreaction. All of the big file hosting platforms have long had copyright and child porn content filters. The fact that they are policing ToS violations (presumably only after they are reported or scripting re-violations) doesn't seem anywhere near 1984-style censorship. I do fear that this will give the tin foil hats more conviction that "there's something to it since they are hiding it!" and not m…

"Oh, it's just a ToS violation"

Let's make promoting LGBT values (for argument's sake) a ToS violation and see if it's still just a "ToS violation".

Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files

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The file was widely shared on Google Drive and linked to from a public twitter message— it was very much not a personal file. And the title literally was, “An Effective Treatment for Coronavirus” referring to hydroxychloroquine. Google’s doing its part to purge pandemic misinformation and prevent harm. The authoring “doctor,” as far as I can tell has never had postgraduate medical training and cannot practice medicine without supervision, is trying to achieve writing a document with a title like that I don’t know.
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