Do the same rules apply to google cloud storage... or really any google cloud resource?
Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files
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Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files
#72I don't see any evidence that Google applied a misinformation policy here. It could be that they simply don't want to pay for the bandwidth to serve video without any ads in it. It is a big file and a lot of people want it. That can get super expensive. I don't know how big this file is, but let's say it's a 4GB DVD image. That ties up 1Gbps for 32 seconds, which means that with a 1Gbps link to your server, you can s…
On the other hand, they could support freedom of speech by not limiting access.
They do block access, therefore suppressing freedom of speech.
Arguing with "they're just saving resources" is ridiculous, especially when considering Google's wealth.
Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
The future is all about self hosting and/or peer to peer technology not controlled by a central authority.
Self hosting was 20 years ago. Who do you think is better at running a mail server, you or Google? Do you want to deal with spam complaints, security, OS upgrades, DMARC, SPF, etc? It's all a pain. FYI I run my own mail servers as a hobby, but still have my main personal account on gmail.
Mail is basically the only thing that is a royal pain to self host.
Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a hugely important distinction. Can we please figure this out before we pick up the pitchforks?
The headline ("Google Drive takes down user’s personal copy...") is suggestive of the file being entirely gone. There's a couple of paragraphs in the article that would seem to support this, but agree that it would be good to have it made very explicit.
And headlines are known to be facts now?
Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files
#75Censoring is a losing battle. Because it attacks a symptom. The cure for ignorance is not trying to hide missinformation (that just empowers the spreaders, gives it credence (they wouldn't bother suppressing it if it weren't true), or drives it into dark places you can no longer detect how much of a problem it is). The cure is to educate people and teach them critical thinking (both of which are expensive and honestl…
Most people dont have the capacity for critical thought on every area of ambiguity/complexity. Its too wide a thought surface, and we have too few hours in a day. So we have things like dictionaries in our minds, filled with information via lots of sources from childhood, tv, peers, etc. Human brains arent logical, they are mostly look up systems.
Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files
#76This is crossing a very bad line, and is absolutely unacceptable. My company of about 50 people on G-Suite will be canceling our subscription and moving to Office 365 within the next three months. We had discussed it in the past due to their history of flagrant disregard for the security and privacy standards we require, but this has galvanized the conversation and we're prioritizing it on the near-term now. I'm sure…
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Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files
#77This is crossing a very bad line, and is absolutely unacceptable. My company of about 50 people on G-Suite will be canceling our subscription and moving to Office 365 within the next three months. We had discussed it in the past due to their history of flagrant disregard for the security and privacy standards we require, but this has galvanized the conversation and we're prioritizing it on the near-term now. I'm sure…
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Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files
#78does anyone know who the people behind the reclaimthenet.org domain are? The headline seems intentionally misleading and the entire article is biased, as seems to be the case for most of the site, almost exlcusively focussing on censorship of fringe figures out of conspiracy and far-right political circles. There is no reference to organisations, writers or editors anywhere on this site if I'm not missing anything.
Yeah you know its this guy behind it https://theduran.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/putin-winkin...
Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files
#79I don't see any evidence that Google applied a misinformation policy here. It could be that they simply don't want to pay for the bandwidth to serve video without any ads in it. It is a big file and a lot of people want it. That can get super expensive. I don't know how big this file is, but let's say it's a 4GB DVD image. That ties up 1Gbps for 32 seconds, which means that with a 1Gbps link to your server, you can s…
On the other hand, they could support freedom of speech by not limiting access. They do block access, therefore suppressing freedom of speech. Arguing with "they're just saving resources" is ridiculous, especially when considering Google's wealth.
You have moved the goalposts dramatically. What started as "random files in Google Drive are being scanned for conspiracy theories and deleted", which would be incredibly worrying, is now "Google should give me tens of thousands of dollars worth of free stuff", which is not all that worrying.
Re: Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation policies to personal files
#80This might be the relevant section in the Terms of Service: Public streaming Drive allows you to store, share, and stream video content, but should not be used as a replacement for a content distribution network. For large-scale public streaming, YouTube is a better fit. Drive will restrict usage when it appears that it's being used for large-scale public streaming. Repeated violations may result in additional action…
> Drive will restrict usage...
> ... including terminating your account or ability to use Drive.
I think that the controversial part is that the file was deleted. I'd find it surprising if some file from my Drive is just deleted instead of restricting public access or using another form of enforcing the policy.