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If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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iTunes is, perhaps, the least intuitive piece of software I've used in the past decade. I have, on three separate occasions now, deleted my entire music collection on the PC while trying to get music from the machine onto the iPod or iPhone. It's happened once on a Mac and twice on the Windows version of iTunes. I no longer even install iTunes, because I'm afraid of it. (I use an Android phone now, don't have an iPad…

You are not alone. I've been using Mac OS X for two years and can't belive why the company that came up with iPad and iPhone still - have global menus (who really wants that with todays screen resolutions and two monitors?) - needs the worlds best trackpads because their laptop keyboards have misplaced ctrl and their default keybindings are so inconsistent that users would be lost without a good pointing device. - fo…

misplaced ctrl, default keybindings are inconsistent, forces developers to use the fn key to reach the function keys

All of this can be adjusted to your liking in the Keyboard preference pane.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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iTunes is, perhaps, the least intuitive piece of software I've used in the past decade. I have, on three separate occasions now, deleted my entire music collection on the PC while trying to get music from the machine onto the iPod or iPhone. It's happened once on a Mac and twice on the Windows version of iTunes. I no longer even install iTunes, because I'm afraid of it. (I use an Android phone now, don't have an iPad…

You are not alone. I've been using Mac OS X for two years and can't belive why the company that came up with iPad and iPhone still - have global menus (who really wants that with todays screen resolutions and two monitors?) - needs the worlds best trackpads because their laptop keyboards have misplaced ctrl and their default keybindings are so inconsistent that users would be lost without a good pointing device. - fo…

I agree with all your points except the first (I'm especially bitter about Spaces, in fact). But as for that one:

> "have global menus (who really wants that with todays screen resolutions and two monitors?)"

Because there are a lot of operations you can do that are not specific to a particular document/window, or in some cases don't apply to any windows at all. And, even more importantly, sometimes you want to close all the windows for an application without closing the whole application!

I've run into this problem in a variety of applications, including DrRacket and Logisim as well as more widespread ones like Word: I want to go through several documents sequentially. Naturally I want to close one before I open the next, so that I don't have a whole pile of old windows open. But if I close the only open window I quit the whole application, so I have to leave one of the docs open as I sequence through the rest. The behaviour of several "close" operations (e.g. clicking the window's close button) varies according to whether there are other windows (close window) or not (quit app). Some apps get around this by opening a dummy "new document" window if you close the last open window, but that's still a little jarring and counts more as a workaround hack than anything else. I don't have these problems when I'm working on a Mac.

Oh, and I almost forgot: Fitts's Law. The global menu bar is a mile high, and it's way way WAY easier to acquire than a menu bar inside a window.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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You forgot - can only resize a window from one corner, and that corner may be off the screen in certain cases so that you can't move the window to a position where the corner is even visible (this just bit me this week) - still doesn't understand how to fullscreen programs (windows maximize function is the single best OS function I've seen that allows a user to focus on just ONE thing). I think this is fixed in the u…

Adding few more. - No cut-paste. - No tabs in Finder. - The missing delete key. (Backspace is renamed as delete) - The not-so-modern Terminal. (hence the wide usage of iTerm)

- Command-C / Command-V for cut and paste in OS X (if that's what you're looking for) - TotalFinder is a nice Finder replacement: http://totalfinder.binaryage.com/ - includes tabs and some other nifty features.

Hope that helps a bit...

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

#134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iTunes is, perhaps, the least intuitive piece of software I've used in the past decade. I have, on three separate occasions now, deleted my entire music collection on the PC while trying to get music from the machine onto the iPod or iPhone. It's happened once on a Mac and twice on the Windows version of iTunes. I no longer even install iTunes, because I'm afraid of it. (I use an Android phone now, don't have an iPad…

You are not alone. I've been using Mac OS X for two years and can't belive why the company that came up with iPad and iPhone still - have global menus (who really wants that with todays screen resolutions and two monitors?) - needs the worlds best trackpads because their laptop keyboards have misplaced ctrl and their default keybindings are so inconsistent that users would be lost without a good pointing device. - fo…

have global menus (who really wants that with todays screen resolutions and two monitors?

I never had a problem with that. With a 13" device it's possible to have 2 to 4 windows open at the same time, since the windows themselves use space efficiently. So at best this argument is subjective to the user.

needs the worlds best trackpads because their laptop keyboards have misplaced ctrl and their default keybindings are so inconsistent that users would be lost without a good pointing device

Not being accustomed to the keyboard layout is rather an excuse than an argument. Also my impression of the key bindings is that they are well done and consistent. Do you have examples to prove your case?

forces developers to use the fn key to reach the function keys, but even then, maps some of the F-keys to operating system functions.

As an developer you should be able to tackle more difficult tasks than finding out that the custom fn keys can be disabled in the system preferences->keyboard pane(if it is important enough for you to write about publicly).

doesn't get multiple desktops? Don't ask me why they ship them, because their window management is so broken that multiple desktops just doesn't work, at least not for me

Window management is a problem for me too. Tools like Shiftit make it easier, but it does't feel like THE solution. I'm curious though if that problem is considered solved on any other platform. The last times I used Windows (XP to 7) it did not do any better.

Try have someone who doesn't know iTunes burn a cd

At some point it was easier to do that(e.g. dedicated button), but given that disc-drives are on the leave in PCs, burning is of less importance to users (at least I can't remember someone burning cd's recently). As one of the most used peaces of software iTunes has a pretty good help documentation, which describes how to burn a cd nicely. The procedure is also quite reasonable, introducing few concepts apart from standard procedures(creating a playlist).

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adding few more. - No cut-paste. - No tabs in Finder. - The missing delete key. (Backspace is renamed as delete) - The not-so-modern Terminal. (hence the wide usage of iTerm)

- Command-C / Command-V for cut and paste in OS X (if that's what you're looking for) - TotalFinder is a nice Finder replacement: http://totalfinder.binaryage.com/ - includes tabs and some other nifty features. Hope that helps a bit...

Command-C / Command-V is copy-paste. Also I do use TotalFinder as a finder replacement. :)

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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In "Marketing Warfare," Al Reis and Jack Trout give a rule of thumb: Never build your strategy around an opponent's weakness. Build it around their strength. Why? because weaknesses can be fixed. Strengths cannot be fixed without undermining an opponent's own strategy.

From this, I get that there are two kinds of problems with a product or service: A weakness, which is something bad that is orthogonal to a product's value proposition, and a drawback, which is an integral part of the value proposition. An example of an Apple drawback would have been its one button mouse for many years: During the period when many Mac buyers were first-time computer users, the single button was part of the simplicity of the interface, but it also was annoying to those who had more experience and wanted more power at their fingertips.

I remember this when thinking about tethering my iPad. This is a weakness, not a drawback. It can certainly be fixed without undermining the iPad's value proposition. If somebody starts selling a lot of tablets that sync to the cloud, Apple can release a firmware or iOS update that syncs to the cloud and boom, no more weakness.

It's annoying but it isn't deeply tied to the iPad's value proposition. So I predict that if and when Apple thinks it is more of a hinderance than a help, it will be changed, and the change will be fairly painless.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Transfer music and data from/to the device using your favorite OS and well-known applications, for one.

So, you can't sync your music with a Linux machine. That's it, really?

Watch 90% of the streaming video out there? Use your choice of fully functional browsers? Download and listen to Amazon MP3 store purchases? Run arbitrary software, even if it's competitive to the platform provider? Mount a usb flash drive?

I'm not sure that was the list that you were looking for, but there it is. How post-PC is it really if every time you have to do something Steve Jobs might not approve of you need to borrow someone's laptop?

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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My iPad won't even charge right without my macBook. My brother works for Apple and gave me the party line about how "some motherboards are not capable of supplying enough power to their usb ports."

I started Parallels on my macBook, plugged in the iPad and let it connect to the virtual XP that was running: "Not Charging". Shut down Parallels without even unplugging the iPad, well, boy howdy, its charging now. No OSX/iTunes? Purposely broken.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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We're in a transitional period. The vast majority of people who have iPads do have a PC of some kind also. For now it's the most practical way of doing backups, updates, and syncing large amounts of content. I do think Apple will move in the direction of not requiring a PC for these things but it's non-trival. How do you sync 16-64GB of data over 3G? Do you push 300MB+ updates to someone with a 150MB/month data cap?…

Its not trivial to divorce these "post PC" devices, but its just increasingly lame to require it, and several others have overcome the hurdle.

Android has. WebOS has.

I get OTA updates to my WebOS device, and it backs itself up over the air nightly. I just updated to 2.1 and all my apps just magically came back, and it had all my email/im/linkedin/facebook account settings too - I just had to re-enter my passwords to confirm. If Palm/HP can manage it, Apple can.

And the syncing of data over 3G argument is pretty lame. Most people find themselves with wifi at home/work for the large updates.

Having to cable my iOS device to my PC each morning to get my daily podcasts from iTunes is nuts. These are wireless devices, they should wake up, download the content and have it just magically "be there" when I decide to listen to one in the subway the next morning. Having to cable it up, or even open the application to force the sync is crazy.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Looking at Dell's price for the last 10 years ( http://yhoo.it/fCdFBo ), that doesn't seem to be a great business to be in. The upgrade cycle is slowing, margins are falling and the mainstream consumer just don't care much about the "latest and greatest" any more when it comes to computers. The reality is that for most users (non-gamers) the power of computers long ago exceeded what they need. Does is really matter i…

So in 10 years, when everyone has speedy tablets (and PCs?), won't the same thing happen?

Not to worry, Apple will be selling post-tablet devices by then.
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