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Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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post #110

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What device would have been a better comparison for someone who cares about price?

It was up to whoever makes a comparison to find such a device. Comparing your device's price to something with a better specs is stretching the truth; if comparable device doesn't exist - just don't do this comparison.

For anyone who wants a good tablet for $500 or $600, the comparison is completely valid. All he said was that the competition wasn't offering anything at the lower price points. Nothing even slightly misleading about that.

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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How much of an Jobs/Apple hater do you have to be before you include Nook and Kindle in the tablet market to argue that the iPad share is actually close to 50?

Quite a large one, I'd imagine. The Nook and Kindle are a pretty far cry from the iPad in terms of capability. To me it seems like it's a very close parallel to a smart phone vs. a feature phone.

The Nook Color has drastically blurred the line between eReaders and tablets since it is, well, basically really just a tablet.

FWIW, the Optimus line of phones from LG is doing the same in the featurephone/smartphone market (priced like a feature phone, but with all the power and features of a 1 year old top of the line smartphone).

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Is it so hard for you fanboys to say something like "Lying is wrong and he shouldn't have done it" and just leave it at that? No bullshit, no qualifications, no Gruber-style excuses, just a simple condemnation of someone doing something wrong.

Apple is a religion. It's like when, 2000 years ago, some flood destroyed some town. They knew God caused floods, and they thought God liked everyone, so they came up with some bullshit like, "those people had impure thoughts". You have to "qualify it" or else everything you believe in is gone. Now, the stakes are lower for tablet PCs versus The Meaning Of Life, and we all know... the lower the stakes, the more peopl…

I don't buy Apple products in general (with only one exception) and I think this presentation was of really poor taste, being in total agreement with the article.

That said ... I have an iPhone 3GS and I couldn't care less that it has lower resolution, a 600 MHz processor and only 256 MB of RAM. I totally prefer it over any Android high-end device available right now, because it runs smoothly, it has all the apps that I need including a couple of cool games, upgrades have been smooth and I haven't had any problems with it.

I don't like the iPad, I don't like their closed iTunes repository.

But I really think more hardware / software companies should be focusing more on functionality, polish, user experience rather than technical specifications.

And here I was hoping that at least one hardware company gets it. And yet I see them entering that same shitty game.

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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post #42

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Is it so hard for you fanboys to say something like "Lying is wrong and he shouldn't have done it" and just leave it at that? No bullshit, no qualifications, no Gruber-style excuses, just a simple condemnation of someone doing something wrong.

Stay civil.

Stay truthful.

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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The misquote was the straw that broke the camel's back. Everything else in that presentation was exactly like every other presentation given by Apple or any company touting a new product: Bring up the places you're better and leave out the places you're falling down.

If it wasn't for the obvious misquote, in bold type, nobody would have batted an eye.

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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post #50

It's a bit hard to take CNN seriously as a tech commentator, frankly. They published this today: http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gadgets/03/03/missing.fr... I've rarely seen a tech article that was less useful or more silly.

The linked article is from Fortune Magazine, although it lives on a cnn.com domain. Considerably more credible in my opinion. The author, Seth Weintraub, also owns the Apple-focused blog 9to5mac.com

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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I can't speak for design, I know most people think that Thinkpads look ugly, however regarding build quality I own a Thinkpad T500 I bought 2 years ago and I have: +Dropped it way more times than I can count, usually while closed and turned off but also while it was running, and while it was open (both running and not). +Totally stood on it, putting my full weight on the closed lid many times. +Left it running in my…

It's not just build quality, it's also aesthetics. You say you can't speak for design, but that's what most people care about more than the ability to bounce their laptop off of concrete. That's why the average consumer isn't in the market for a Toughbook.

>That's why the average consumer isn't in the market for a Toughbook.

The average consumer isn't in the market for a beautiful piece of a glass laptop that breaks with little impact either.

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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I hate when people compare Apple products specs with the other competitors. I mean, if a device runs smooth including apps, and no crashes. Why the hell do I need to know if Xoom as 1GB and iPad2 has only 256mb ?

This will only shows that the iPad was better developed in terms of memory optimization then any another other >= 1GB device that does the exact same thing.

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Is it so hard for you fanboys to say something like "Lying is wrong and he shouldn't have done it" and just leave it at that? No bullshit, no qualifications, no Gruber-style excuses, just a simple condemnation of someone doing something wrong.

If you respond to something I actually wrote, I'll be happy to discuss it with you.

He did. Your comment was a long winded apologetic on why Apple was justified in lying, bending the truth, and promoting half truths.

You started by saying "I don't agree" then ended up "Apple needs to state their viewpoints" which is subtly justifying their behavior.

In my opinion, this is an open and shut case of Steve not being honest in his keynote, and he should be called out.

It's especially disappointing to hear this as a fan of Apple as I don't think this kind of reality distortion is necessary given Apple's success. It just makes them look desperate and much lower then their actual position would dictate.

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