South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus • Hacker News Board

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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Post by jbay808 » Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 5:47 PM UTC

marcosdumay wrote: post #92

jbay808 wrote: post #66

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So is the wild animal trade that introduced the virus? I mean if something is just shorthand for "things people do", it gets credit and blame for a lot of things...

It's better defined as things people do freely, and out of self interest (that's flawed too, but it's better). And yep, that trade is "market" too. And it does get blamed for a lot of things, some of them unwarranted.

Depending on what you mean by "self interest", it sounds like market forces are why people fall in love, nurture their children, volunteer at the hospice, listen to stories around the campfire, say their prayers at night, and brush their teeth before bed...

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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Post by dang » Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 8:41 PM UTC

ggffryuuj wrote: post #116

jariel wrote: post #112

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>>> "We might see something that vaguely resembles what you are describing." No, there's a 100% chance we will see it if we don't take measures. Watch the news from Wuhan, Italy - it's apoplectic. It's really bad, and if they didn't shut everything down, it would be a zombie movie. We know that 'shutting things down' works because in China, the virus is contained, at least for now and medical facilities are starting…

It’s going to be basically totally over in a few months, maybe more. So you have tipped your hand a bit because you are confused that I would talk about antibiotics. That comment alone has revealed to me that you have no idea what you’re talking about and are probably 14 years old. The way that covid appears to kill most people is by upsetting gas transfer in the lungs and secondary bacterial infections, pneumonia. T…

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Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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Post by ggffryuuj » Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 9:39 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #132

ggffryuuj wrote: post #116

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It’s going to be basically totally over in a few months, maybe more. So you have tipped your hand a bit because you are confused that I would talk about antibiotics. That comment alone has revealed to me that you have no idea what you’re talking about and are probably 14 years old. The way that covid appears to kill most people is by upsetting gas transfer in the lungs and secondary bacterial infections, pneumonia. T…

You've made some reasonable points in places but you've also broken the site guidelines egregiously. The latter is more significant, so we've banned this account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

If people slight me then I should be able to slight them back...

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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Post by dang » Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 7:09 AM UTC

ggffryuuj wrote: post #133

dang wrote: post #132

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You've made some reasonable points in places but you've also broken the site guidelines egregiously. The latter is more significant, so we've banned this account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

If people slight me then I should be able to slight them back...

Not here. At scale, that would guarantee the destruction of the forum.

Re: South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus

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Post by malandrew » Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 5:19 PM UTC

gameswithgo wrote: post #81

malandrew wrote: post #31

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This is the real problem. Both the CDC and the FDA stopped everyone else from making progress on testing and we only started getting more tests when labs decided to disobey them. Cockups like this really should lay to rest the idea some people have that the federal government is a panacea for everything. This is very similar to one of Warren Buffett's quote about investing in companies: “I try to invest in businesses…

The problem I have with this attitude, as it plays out in the United States, is that people accept this idea as true, and so then they de-fund things until they operate poorly, they vote with apathy so you end up with idiots in control, and basically the prophecy fulfills itself. All these things about idiots being in charge is, as Buffet said, true of companies as well. Nothing is a panacea.

You can have many companies to choose from in the market and can choose to avoid the one run by idiots. You only have one government, so if it is full of idiots, you're pretty much screwed.

I'm not every talking about government funding. I'm talking about government having too much power and control. That said, just throwing more money at the government gives zero guarantee that it will run any better. It usually will run just as poorly, but wasting more money than before.