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A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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The idiom is "speak for yourself" (sorry if I offend)

The definition of "idiom" as per the google search is "a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words (e.g. over the moon, see the light )." The sentence "speak for yourself" has the meaning that is directly deduced from its words. How does it qualify as an idiom ?

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Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Strange to see so many comments praising the way this guy died. Do people really want to die suddenly in front of strangers without any time to prepare and get your house in order? So many here say that's the way they want to go, but that's hard to believe. Personally, I'd rather be given a few months or years notice so that I can prepare.

If you know that what awaits you is a peaceful death, well maybe. But if the process implies a lot of suffering (physical or emotional) a quick end sounds way better.

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The death of any loved one is hard on any family, but IMO a quick, relatively painless, death is definately easier. My mother-in-law died from cancer a few years ago, and after many months of pain and constantly in and out of hospitals, when she was finally lying on her deathbed unconcious as her body began to give up, my wife was tasked with making the decision of whether doctors would administer a lethal morphine d…

Very sad to read that. Yet, by the way, why do they always use lethal doses of morphine for euthanasia? I.e. I would strongly prefer a lethal dose of 5-MeO-DMT (which feels like spiritual ascension and dissolution in pure light, union with the universe and non-duality, and then you just forget to breathe in case of a lethal dose) for myself.

It sounds like death is the opposite of what you think it is. DMT is obviously highly activating and opens the neurological floodgates so to speak (as is any seratonin-based psychedelic). Death is the total opposite of this: the total shutdown of all processes, much more like an extreme and total sedation

Also is there even such a thing as a lethal dose of DMT?

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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post #123

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The death of any loved one is hard on any family, but IMO a quick, relatively painless, death is definately easier. My mother-in-law died from cancer a few years ago, and after many months of pain and constantly in and out of hospitals, when she was finally lying on her deathbed unconcious as her body began to give up, my wife was tasked with making the decision of whether doctors would administer a lethal morphine d…

Very sad to read that. Yet, by the way, why do they always use lethal doses of morphine for euthanasia? I.e. I would strongly prefer a lethal dose of 5-MeO-DMT (which feels like spiritual ascension and dissolution in pure light, union with the universe and non-duality, and then you just forget to breathe in case of a lethal dose) for myself.

Sounds illegal

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Strange to see so many comments praising the way this guy died. Do people really want to die suddenly in front of strangers without any time to prepare and get your house in order? So many here say that's the way they want to go, but that's hard to believe. Personally, I'd rather be given a few months or years notice so that I can prepare.

Depends if you have been in hospital and shared a bay with very seriously ill patients you might not say that.

I recall a older guy who had renal failure and had to be fed through the nose, and another who started to become unstuck in time and was calling out for mother at night

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> "Sudden Cardiac Arrest": "In over half of the cases, however, sudden cardiac arrest occurs without prior symptoms." Like, the pump just stops. You'd feel faint and then be unconscious. What a wonderful way to die. No sickness, no disability, no pain. Just turn off when the time comes. I wish everybody could die this way. Not too early preferably.

Speaking as somebody who lost a loved one this way ... it's very hard on the family. I often wonder about my father's last moments ... did he know what was happening? Did he have any regrets, or any last things he wanted to say to people? For us as a family it was like a bomb going off, and we spent many many years cleaning up the debris, and in some ways nearly two decades later we still are. There are plenty worse…

You don't get a "don't die" choice. Only a spectrum of how.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Very sad to read that. Yet, by the way, why do they always use lethal doses of morphine for euthanasia? I.e. I would strongly prefer a lethal dose of 5-MeO-DMT (which feels like spiritual ascension and dissolution in pure light, union with the universe and non-duality, and then you just forget to breathe in case of a lethal dose) for myself.

It sounds like death is the opposite of what you think it is. DMT is obviously highly activating and opens the neurological floodgates so to speak (as is any seratonin-based psychedelic). Death is the total opposite of this: the total shutdown of all processes, much more like an extreme and total sedation Also is there even such a thing as a lethal dose of DMT?

There’s a lethal dose for pretty much anything.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Very sad to read that. Yet, by the way, why do they always use lethal doses of morphine for euthanasia? I.e. I would strongly prefer a lethal dose of 5-MeO-DMT (which feels like spiritual ascension and dissolution in pure light, union with the universe and non-duality, and then you just forget to breathe in case of a lethal dose) for myself.

It sounds like death is the opposite of what you think it is. DMT is obviously highly activating and opens the neurological floodgates so to speak (as is any seratonin-based psychedelic). Death is the total opposite of this: the total shutdown of all processes, much more like an extreme and total sedation Also is there even such a thing as a lethal dose of DMT?

I don't know about n,n-DMT (which is a potent hallucinogen and for what simply DMT is a conventional shorthand for) but for 5-MeO-DMT (which is a distinct substance, very weak hallucinogen yet tremendously strong psychedelic) - it's not unlikely to die if you overdose. Doses above 25mg are dangerous, 100mg is probably an almost guaranteed physical death. You just experience being so free from the concepts of material (and mental) reality, one with G-d, Universe and everything, that you can (and will, if the dose is enough) forget about your physical body and it stops breathing.

Curiously enough this substance seems being safe and even very beneficial as long as the doses are reasonable and this attracts scientific attention. I.e. I've read the following paper recently: A single inhalation of vapor from dried toad secretion containing 5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (5-MeO-DMT) in a naturalistic setting is related to sustained enhancement of satisfaction with life, mindfulness-related capacities, and a decrement of psychopathological symptoms (DOI: 10.1007/s00213-019-05236-w).

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