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Re: Android 10

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Post by legohead »

mpalczewski wrote: post #80

I guess I'm not impressed. - Edit: not a bad release Live caption on device: Sounds great. Very useful if you are hearing impaired. If you just want captions for the words the are difficult to make out, some AI isn't going to help there. AI's are currently worse than I am at detecting words. Smart reply: This looks useful. Not having to lose info as you create an appointment or less clicks copying and pasting directi…

I've had Family Link on my Pixel2 since 2018 (and my daughter's Moto X4). It has been very useful and is a great app. Strange to list it as a feature for Android 10, but maybe not a lot of people know about it?

Live caption sounds great to me since my wife's family is Russian and I don't speak it very well. We video chat with grandma often and I'm not really involved...

Re: Android 10

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Post by kbenson »

rolltiide wrote: post #90
bhahn wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iMessage pressure is real for me too. I was considering switching to an iPhone for a while but found air message and have been using it for a few weeks. It doesn't have all the features of iMessage, but core messaging works pretty well and I haven't felt a need to switch to an iPhone. https://airmessage.org/

do you appear as an iOS user to actual iOS users? I can't tell from the website

Given that the installation guide[1] says you need "A computer running OS X 10.10 Yosemite or higher (and a place for it to stay)" I'm pretty sure they are just relaying your messages through an actual desktop iMessage instance, so probably. I imagine a lot of Android users don't have a computer running MacOS to do this though, so while a cool solution, it probably doesn't help the majority of people.

1: https://airmessage.org/guide/

Re: Android 10

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Post by jlmorton »

coding123 wrote: post #129

The only thing I want in Android next is native call blocking similar to Hiya but integrated. They did a good job with my last request of being able to turn off all notifications. Happy Android user (except when voice assist fucks up then I'm all rage) (Edit Ok and iPhone like messaging)

Pixel 3 integrates call screening very tightly, which is not quite the same thing, but is in many ways better.

Re: Android 10

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Post by sigmar »

headmelted wrote: post #24
uncheckederror wrote: post #6

Nice to see Signal (not the default Messages app) in the Smart Reply demo.

Is it? I use Signal because I don't want Google reading my messages.

As it was in Gmail and Messages, 'Smart Reply' is done with on-device models, messages aren't sent to Google. Source: https://9to5google.com/2019/04/05/ml-kit-smart-reply/

Re: Android 10

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Post by muddi900 »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #64

The way they show and demonstrate gestures, along with the UI at the bottom, strongly suggests that they intend to eliminate the semi-"hard" buttons in favor of gestures. That would save space, give people a bit more control over fullscreen apps, and provide a less "modal" UI where the same gestures always work even if the buttons aren't available (such as when playing fullscreen video). Also, "Get security updates f…

>Also, "Get security updates faster." is huge; this is effectively saying "no matter who makes your phone, you still get updates".

I have been hearing this for years.

Re: Android 10

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Post by kbenson »

placatedmayhem wrote: post #46
bsamuels wrote: post #29

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as dumb as it sounds, nobody likes to be a green bubble

It's not just green bubbles. Tapbacks are awkward and pictures and videos don't send as reliably. With my "green bubble" friends, we usually use Telegram or Signal or Keybase instead. I'd love to see a standardized IM/Text protocol instead of 1000 fragmented platforms. I've got on the order of 10 chat apps on my phone right now, all used in different contexts.

> I'd love to see a standardized IM/Text protocol instead of 1000 fragmented platforms.

I'm hoping that's what RCS[1] will be (ids? And that's why I referenced it above). It's supposed to by the successor to SMS, but it's been around for quite a while and not adopted, so I'm not sure what's going on with it.

Edit: It looks like as of a couple months ago it's live in the UK and France, and just those two countries.[2]

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services

2: https://9to5google.com/2019/07/01/rcs-hands-on-not-quite-ime...

Re: Android 10

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Post by siffland »

izacus wrote: post #57
siffland wrote: post #41

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Looks groovy, but my 2 year old LG is stuck at Android 8 with Security updates stopped in January. I wish android hardware was better supported for the long haul. I would even go as far as saying i would pay yearly for android maintenance than to pitch my phone for a OS update. My phone has plenty of power....at least we have XDA forums.

So why not buy a phone that has guaranteed updates? Like a Pixel or one of the Android One series? That's how you vote with your wallet. Android 10 will be deployed to 1st gen Pixels today too.

Your right I used to have a Nexus tablet, it was great and well supported, until it kept running out of space. I require something with a microsd card slot, i travel to a lot of places with zero internet access and any information or media or whatever i need needs to be on my phone (i carry a work laptop, i am not going to carry 2 laptops). When i looked none of the google phones provided that, maybe they do now.

Also 2 years ago i paid $700 for the phone. There is nothing wrong with the hardware, so i should pitch it to get another expensive phone? There is android 9 on the XDA forums for my phone.

Off topic, but i find it commical that my 17 and 18 years old kids yell at me because my 14 year old car gets about 27 miles to the gallon and pollutes so much, but every year they beg me to buy them a new phone so they can junk their old ones......

Re: Android 10

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Post by vladdanilov »

The website assets are optimized in a rather strange way. The total page weight of ~20MB is huge for mobile. The images are heavily compressed using WebP lossy with quite noticeable blockiness and washed out textures and fine details, but squeezed into 1MB, yet the videos are only lightly compressed, and make up most of the page weight. Had they been compressed with libx264 at good quality, the page weight would be more than 70% smaller, and there would not be any need to ruin the image quality that much.

Re: Android 10

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Post by justusthane »

mpalczewski wrote: post #113
skybrian wrote: post #94

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This is really quite cynical, particularly about sound amplifier. It should be very useful to the millions of people who are hearing impaired, but haven't gotten a hearing aid yet. (Most people tend to put this off for a while.) There's some irony that some folks might have gotten hearing loss from headphones in the first place, but it sounds like a useful feature.

It will be useful to me, but there's already a volume button. Would be nice if that just worked, instead of it being nerfed. The volume limitations only made sense if you never used headphones less sensitive than the oem ones and listened to source audio that was only at maximum volume all the time.

But Sound Amplifier isn't about making the phone's audio louder - its purpose is to amplify the sound in the room around you and filter background noise. I think you're misunderstanding the feature.

Re: Android 10

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Post by JohnFen »

garysahota93 wrote: post #81
gowld wrote: post #28

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How does the pressure manifest?

I've had a few friends passive aggressively mention I am the reason our group chat is MMS vs iMessage. Or even worse: I just simply got excluded from group chats. That was the saddest one because when hanging out in person, a friend will mention a conversation from the group chat and I wouldn't know what's going on and they would just awkwardly pretend it didn't happen. Or say they'd add me to the group and never act…

> the social pressure (in the US at least) is insane.

This isn't a US-wide thing. This is about the priorities of a certain subculture, nothing more. Your friends just happen to be embedded in that subculture. My condolences.

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