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Re: Android 10

#91

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Yes, and other Android phones probably never, except some current flagships who'll get it in 6+ months.

Yeah, Project Treble is great and everything, but phones not being updated to the latest version of Android when they're less than 2 years old is a marketing/roadmap limitation, not a technical one.

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Re: Android 10

#92

This should be available for Pixel phones sometime today, right?

Yes, and other Android phones probably never, except some current flagships who'll get it in 6+ months.

1. The release candidate of this update has been available for recent devices from most major vendors for quite a while now.

2. You DON'T want this update right now anyway. At this point it is just a tech demo for Pixel people and far from stable. 6 to 9 months from now it will be good enough as a daily driver.

Re: Android 10

#93
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Some phones in the Android One program should also have a decent chance of getting it quickly. Everything else will probably get quite a few of the features from the closed source parts of Android that are shipped by the Play Store anyway.

Android OS features can't be updated from PlayStore, other than the WebView.

What are you calling "Android OS" in this context? My understanding is that a lot of APIs that used to be shipped with AOSP and be updated with each new Android version are now shipped in the Play store to avoid the mess that is Android fragmentation.

Re: Android 10

#94

I guess I'm not impressed. - Edit: not a bad release Live caption on device: Sounds great. Very useful if you are hearing impaired. If you just want captions for the words the are difficult to make out, some AI isn't going to help there. AI's are currently worse than I am at detecting words. Smart reply: This looks useful. Not having to lose info as you create an appointment or less clicks copying and pasting directi…

This is really quite cynical, particularly about sound amplifier. It should be very useful to the millions of people who are hearing impaired, but haven't gotten a hearing aid yet. (Most people tend to put this off for a while.)

There's some irony that some folks might have gotten hearing loss from headphones in the first place, but it sounds like a useful feature.

Re: Android 10

#95
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Indeed. But it does look nicer/work better for what black themes are actually good at: Using at night. So while the additional battery savings between "true black" and grey are within the margin of error, the battery benefits remain for both and the non-battery benefits remain for our eyes.

Feels like "dark mode" is an advertisement gimmick more than a useful feature for some products now.

No way, dark mode is great. Combine it with an internet browser that has a night mode (Samsung's fork of Chrome) and the phones are significantly more pleasant to use at night.

Re: Android 10

#96
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As a recent iOS user coming from Android, this almost makes me want to go back. I really do miss the Smart Reply and native Google Assistant features. But alas, iMessage pressure is real in my friend's group.

> But alas, iMessage pressure is real in my friend's group. Man, in my extended family SMS text group, this comes up once every couple weeks. One of us will note they aren't getting a random message, or someone will send a video and the quality will be crap, and the iPhone users will all mention how if we all had iPhones, this wouldn't be a problem. Cue a few of is getting kind of triggered because it's only Apple's…

> Man, in my extended family SMS text group, this comes up once every couple weeks. One of us will note they aren't getting a random message, or someone will send a video and the quality will be crap, and the iPhone users will all mention how if we all had iPhones, this wouldn't be a problem.

IMO a reasonable compromise is WhatsApp. Rich features like iMessage's but portable and lots of people already use it.

I have never had a Facebook account and I've always been wary of them. I think it's fair to be concerned about privacy w/WhatsApp but I'm torn because it's a very practical solution.

Re: Android 10

#97

"Contaminant detection: If moisture or debris is detected in your USB port, a notification will be sent to you and accessories will not function." "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."

I can't wait until it falsely identifies the dirt and I can't charge my phone any more.

Re: Android 10

#98

I guess I'm not impressed. - Edit: not a bad release Live caption on device: Sounds great. Very useful if you are hearing impaired. If you just want captions for the words the are difficult to make out, some AI isn't going to help there. AI's are currently worse than I am at detecting words. Smart reply: This looks useful. Not having to lose info as you create an appointment or less clicks copying and pasting directi…

One thing I like on Pie, is after clearing a few notifications from an app that I don't care to see it automatically prompts me to stop showing them.

Re: Android 10

#99
post #44

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> But alas, iMessage pressure is real in my friend's group. Man, in my extended family SMS text group, this comes up once every couple weeks. One of us will note they aren't getting a random message, or someone will send a video and the quality will be crap, and the iPhone users will all mention how if we all had iPhones, this wouldn't be a problem. Cue a few of is getting kind of triggered because it's only Apple's…

> Man, in my extended family SMS text group, this comes up once every couple weeks. One of us will note they aren't getting a random message, or someone will send a video and the quality will be crap, and the iPhone users will all mention how if we all had iPhones, this wouldn't be a problem. IMO a reasonable compromise is WhatsApp. Rich features like iMessage's but portable and lots of people already use it. I have…

Telegram is the best compromise imo

Re: Android 10

#100
post #75

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Feels like "dark mode" is an advertisement gimmick more than a useful feature for some products now.

No way, dark mode is great. Combine it with an internet browser that has a night mode (Samsung's fork of Chrome) and the phones are significantly more pleasant to use at night.

Dark mode is only great if absolutely every single website and app you use support it, and you are never shown bright images ever, because then your eyes explode. This is, it's useless.
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