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The U.S. just had the most Q1 layoffs in a decade

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The ability to print money was outsourced to the Federal Reserve, while regulated by the govt it is not the govt. When we "borrow" money from the Fed it is at interest. We have created a debt based system where everything is a borrow. Fiat currencies are based on the value of the peoples ability to create value. When the people owe the banks more value than they can generate they are bankrupt. When the people and the…

BTW you downvoters who think the Federal Reserve is the govt should read a bit https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section9.htm

The federal reserve is indeed part of the government. It has separations from the executive branch but it is indeed part of the government.

The same website you linked to has an FAQ page dedicated to clearing up this misconception: https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm

> The Federal Reserve System is not "owned" by anyone. Although parts of the Federal Reserve System share some characteristics with private-sector entities, the Federal Reserve was established to serve the public interest.

> Some observers mistakenly consider the Federal Reserve to be a private entity because the Reserve Banks are organized similarly to private corporations. For instance, each of the 12 Reserve Banks operates within its own particular geographic area, or District, of the United States, and each is separately incorporated and has its own board of directors. Commercial banks that are members of the Federal Reserve System hold stock in their District's Reserve Bank. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. In fact, the Reserve Banks are required by law to transfer net earnings to the U.S. Treasury, after providing for all necessary expenses of the Reserve Banks, legally required dividend payments, and maintaining a limited balance in a surplus fund.

Re: The U.S. just had the most Q1 layoffs in a decade

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It's not just projections or worries. Companies have real hard data, such as sales pipeline, inventories, orders etc. If your sales pipeline is down, inventory is stocking up, and your warehouse is idle compared to a year before, it is a manager's job to lay off employees. a few interesting reports: https://www.reddit.com/r/StockMarket/comments/aydpbu/first_h... https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1110161228507348…

This could leave you flat-footed when the economy picks back up or you realize it was a 'blip', so it's not an easy/clear decision to make because you see one or two numbers going down.

This is the "bullwhip effect": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullwhip_effect

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Incorrect 1. Applications for membership by State banks -- Any bank incorporated by special law of any State, operating under the Code of Law for the District of Columbia, or organized under the general laws of any State or of the United States, including Morris Plan banks and other incorporated banking institutions engaged in similar business, desiring to become a member of the Federal Reserve System, may make appli…

I'm not sure how your quote is relevant to the statement that the Federal Reserve is part of the US government. The Federal Reserve is "independent within the government" [1] not separate from the government. There's a whole page on the Federal Reserve website's FAQ section dedicated to explaining this. Your quote seems to be about how commercial or State banks apply to become a part of the Federal reserve system. 1.…

Can you not read ?

"Any" bank can become a member. It is quite clear in plain english.

Re: The U.S. just had the most Q1 layoffs in a decade

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BTW you downvoters who think the Federal Reserve is the govt should read a bit https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section9.htm

The federal reserve is indeed part of the government. It has separations from the executive branch but it is indeed part of the government. The same website you linked to has an FAQ page dedicated to clearing up this misconception: https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm > The Federal Reserve System is not "owned" by anyone. Although parts of the Federal Reserve System share some characteristics with priv…

Incorrect.

That is like saying any corporation publicly traded yet regulated by the govt is now part of the govt.

Any bank can apply to become a member and buy shares of the federal reserve. They simply are regulated by the govt.

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BTW you downvoters who think the Federal Reserve is the govt should read a bit https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section9.htm

The federal reserve is indeed part of the government. It has separations from the executive branch but it is indeed part of the government. The same website you linked to has an FAQ page dedicated to clearing up this misconception: https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm > The Federal Reserve System is not "owned" by anyone. Although parts of the Federal Reserve System share some characteristics with priv…

profits yes... not operating costs and fees

Bonuses and salaries of bankers are quite expensive

Re: The U.S. just had the most Q1 layoffs in a decade

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And yet: "Applications for US Unemployment Aid Fall to 49-Year Low"[0] "Unemployment Rate Reached a Record Low in 19 States Last Year"[1] [0] https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2019-04-04/app... [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-23/unemploym...

Totally wrong! The employment population ratio age 25-54, just climbed out of a sewer where it has wallowed BELOW the lowest gross employment ratio since the recession bottom in 1992! https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS12300060 You read too many Clinton-era Arkansas lies. Clinton's racist "discouraged workers" unemployment stats - that only racists quote - says that poor people and minorities don't matter and a la…

Your link shows it bottoming out in 2009-2011 after the housing crash, well below the 1992 ratio. And then a steady and mostly linear climb from late 2011 to the end of the data.

After that early 90s recession there's a steady rise to the dotcom burst around 2000, which bottoms around 03 and starts to rise again until the housing crash. Seems like a pattern. Progress until the financiers manage to tank the economy, repeat.

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The question is what is a sustainable rate.

If the deficit is 3.8% of GDP [1] and growth is only 2.9% [2] during a supposed economic "boom", something is wrong. [1] https://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/federal_deficit_percent_gdp [2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy/u-s-economic-...

I think our current deficit spending is dumb, but I don't actually see a problem mathematically with this. Assuming we only pay 2% interest on that debt, that's 0.076% of GDP to service the debt from this year. If the new GDP growth is taxed at just 10%, then we have 0.29% of GDP in new taxes. So that's a 4x ROI correct? (of course, the assumption here is that there is no better way to spend that money and that the deficit spending is fully responsible for the GDP growth to begin with...) So theoretically it's not going to break the bank even though many people like me think it's unnecessary

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I'm not sure how your quote is relevant to the statement that the Federal Reserve is part of the US government. The Federal Reserve is "independent within the government" [1] not separate from the government. There's a whole page on the Federal Reserve website's FAQ section dedicated to explaining this. Your quote seems to be about how commercial or State banks apply to become a part of the Federal reserve system. 1.…

Can you not read ? "Any" bank can become a member. It is quite clear in plain english.

Your point? The Federal reserve system is still part of the government. The banks that joined it form the sub-branches of the federal reserve system: https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/structure-federal...

Any natural born citizen can become a member of Congress (provided they are over 30 iirc). Does it follow then that Congress is not a part of the government because any persom can become a part of it.

A formerly private citizen now sits in the white house. Does it follow that the executive branch is not part of the government?

I cannot comprehend why the fact that non-government entities can joint a government entity makes you think the latter ceases to be part of the government.

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The federal reserve is indeed part of the government. It has separations from the executive branch but it is indeed part of the government. The same website you linked to has an FAQ page dedicated to clearing up this misconception: https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm > The Federal Reserve System is not "owned" by anyone. Although parts of the Federal Reserve System share some characteristics with priv…

Incorrect. That is like saying any corporation publicly traded yet regulated by the govt is now part of the govt. Any bank can apply to become a member and buy shares of the federal reserve. They simply are regulated by the govt.

No. Again I'm really not sure why you insist on saying so given the fact that the Federal Reserve saw fit to dedicate a whole FAQ section to say otherwise.

Publicly traded companies area still owned by private people and organizations. The publicly traded nature subjects them to additional oversight, but they're still private enterprises.

Where can I buy stake in the Federal reserve? What was it's stock price history?

We can't because nobody "owns" the federal reserve, just like nobody "owns" the FBI or the Navy.

Re: The U.S. just had the most Q1 layoffs in a decade

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Can you not read ? "Any" bank can become a member. It is quite clear in plain english.

Your point? The Federal reserve system is still part of the government. The banks that joined it form the sub-branches of the federal reserve system: https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/structure-federal... Any natural born citizen can become a member of Congress (provided they are over 30 iirc). Does it follow then that Congress is not a part of the government because any persom can become a part of it. A for…

> Any natural born citizen can become a member of Congress (provided they are over 30 iirc)

Tangentially, both the age and natural born citizen requirements are wrong; the minimum for a member of Congress are the requirements for the House, where you must be a citizen for at least 7 years, 25 years old, and an inhabitant of the State you represent.

For the Senate, the age requirement is 30 and the citizenship requirement is 9 years.

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