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Post by arcticfox »

sgc wrote: post #117
tgarma1234 wrote: post #46

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Yes, if you overtly sexualize something for which there is no real reason to take the conversation in that direction then you are very likely a creep. They could have been cool cars but I just don't like that. Incidentally I was responding the comment that mentioned there is a lot of hate for Tesla. What I mostly don't like about Tesla, aside from that stupid naming convention, is that they missed all of their manufa…

I don't know where you are from, but it worth remembering that the use of the term "sexy" is much more commonplace for inanimate objects and has different connotations in the English speaking world outside the United States. And the CEO of the company in question was raised outside the US.

I think this is true even in the US, at least as far as my American English takes me.

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Post by wils1245 »

vanderZwan wrote: post #116
InTheArena wrote: post #50

I drove the Model 3 last week. It’s a properly good car in it’s own right - It reminded me of the MOdel 3 from BMS in how it handles, of course the performance curve is totally different. The rethinking of the dashboard is perfect for the cell phone age. It’s Apple Good (back when Apple was good). The performance curve - the instant power at any point is addicting. The seats were comfortable, and the trunk space was…

Comments like this make me think the Model 3 is going to be the Ford Model T of electric cars.

The doubt on Tesla is not whether the cars are great, it’s whether they can scale production. You need both to be a Model T.

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Post by staunch »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #97
kumarvvr wrote: post #89

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Steve Jobs used way more hyped up adjectives, almost as if talking to a cult following.

Steve Jobs was basically a salesman. A brilliant one. Nothing bad in that; I just wouldn't call him a "tech leader" - he was involved with technology only incidentally.

Steve Jobs was hacking on electronics in the 1970s and building the most advanced personal computing devices from then until his death.

He was not a programmer but he knew more about computers than most programmers do. There's absolutely no way to call him non-technical accurately. Bill Gates giving up programming did not make him non-technical.

Elon Musk wouldn't make this mistake. He's very openly trying to emulate Steve Jobs' entire skillset.

Maybe the cause of this confusion is that most people only saw Steve Jobs when he went up on stage for an hour every year. Try asking yourself what he was doing the rest of the time. Elon Musk did.

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Post by atourgates »

_ph_ wrote: post #121
arkh wrote: post #112

How much time spent charging? Charging time is what make petrol win. Drive 500 miles, take 5mn to charge up and you're good for 500 more miles. Until EV can do this (surely through charging stations like petrol cars) they won't good at anything more than daily commute if you can plug your car at at home and at work. So battery technology is where the interest should be. We already know how to make efficient electric…

Yes, refuling will always be faster than recharging. That is physics. The question rather is: at which point (and for which driver profile) is it no longer a practical problem? Elektric cars already save you a lot of refuling stops in day-to-day driving, if you plug them in over night. And the Tesla supercharger network is basically almost fast enough, that it reasonably fits with the breaks one would take on long tr…

Personally, I think it's when an EV can make a 9-hour drive without needing more than about 30 minutes of total charging.

9 hours is (in my opinion) the max amount of driving you can seriously do without at least a couple hours of resting.

That'd be about 540 miles total, maybe a bit less if you could make those 30 minutes of rest stops at a fast charger.

Right now, EV's are clearly the future. I'd say that when they have a 500 mile range with an MSRP that matches ICE vehicles, they'll go from being "exciting new technology" to "the obvious choice for most people."

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Post by Already__Taken »

hnarn wrote: post #20
kumarvvr wrote: post #14

There is so much negativity about Tesla. Watching Tesla reminds of the the quote "We hoped for flying cars, but what we got was 140 characters" (or something similar, I don't remember it verbatim) Every time I think about Tesla, I am reminded of the thousands of brilliant engineers toiling away in Silicon Valley trying to optimize online advertising. Maybe we could be a bit more closer to Fusion energy, maybe we coul…

It's always been my sincere opinion that even if Musk fails miserably I'll still admire him more than most other "tech idols". There are people that say he's all talk, but I don't care. Even if he's 75% talk and delivers on the rest, whatever he does achieve is still better than a face-detecting smartphone or a social network that makes money by profiling your personality for advertisers. I don't care about the money…

I don't really care either way for the man but something he said to the effect of "Technology doesn't just get better, it takes hard work and will and money" and the general building the future you want to live in.

I mean sentiments like that. It's just right in the feels ya know? It's a reason to go even read the news in the morning.

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Post by kinard »

juanmirocks wrote: post #71

Arguably, Tesla & Elon Musk already achieved their goal of speeding up the adoption to EVs away from combustion engines: all car companies are working now on or have plans for electric vehicles. Elon Musk has already succeeded big big time.

Without a doubt, It seems like everyone is playing catchup, I'm still shocked how far behind the German car manufacturers are. I recently switched from a BMW M5 to a model S. It's been a great switch for me. Slightly lacking in build quality but made up for in that 0-60 excitement!

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Post by Retric »

falcolas wrote: post #119
Retric wrote: post #77

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I think you could add. Paypal: 75% (Much hate, still good option for many things.) Solar City: 75% (Over expanded, not sure if that was a bad thing and was bought by Tesla. Still it installed 870 MW of solar in 2015 alone.) Steve Jobs had close ties to fewer companies, Pixar, Apple, NeXT and did a similar purchase of NeXT by Apple. However, while dubious Apple greatly benefited from NeXt. So, I am willing to bet Sola…

As someone who has lost money to PayPal, I have a hard time agreeing with the 75%, especially when you consider all the caveats associated with it. That said, I won't argue the point. I could swear that the rush for solar via Solar City has dropped precipitously. It seems like those who want it have it at this point. Its business model is also heavily dependent on US grants, and has seen some major downturns in terms…

The boring company includes the idea of ~140MPH electric sleds that carry cars. This is part of their goal for 1/10th the price. It may or may not be implemented long term, but it is a novel concept and they are actually digging right now to gain expertise.

I would call it similar to Space X before they started landing the rockets. Just making digging cheaper much like making rockets cheaper is a basis for a profitable company. A long term goal of 1/10th the price really would be game changing.

PS: Picture even a one way toll road that goes 20 miles under I-66 into DC they could easily charge 10$/ trip an get 100,000+ riders each way per day. So, the real question is how much that tunnel costs. At 20 billion $ that's 20 billion * 6% ~= 1.2 billion per year vs 2 * 10 * 100,000 * 5 * 48 = 480 million so not a win. But, at 1/10th the price or 2 billion that's ~120 million per year break-even vs 480 million and highly profitable. How many places could a 5 mile segment be able to charge say 3 dollars and have 100,000 people per workday?

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Post by mmsimanga »

lumberjack wrote: post #90
sharpercoder wrote: post #80

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I think Model S solved electric driving. Car reviewers seem to think so, the industry seem to think so (most manufacturers announced electrical models). Range, comfort, charging locations, safety, all solved problems. How is Tesla's supposed claim they solved electrical driving misleading?

For the past 15 years people had been trying to make the mass market EV. The envisioned future was that the every day man would be driving this basic EV instead of their $15k ICE commuter car. That was the goal, obviously influenced to a great extent by both fuel prices and climate change concerns. All EV car models before the Tesla Roadster were trying to target this market. The Model S targeted a new market entirel…

Perhaps everyone was chasing the wrong goal. Just about all "new" technologies start off being expensive. This is true of the telephone, cellphone, car ... In time when manufacturing processes catch up they become available to the masses. I presume the first devices are expensive to cover the R&D costs.

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Post by wernerb »

While I appreciate the record, the GPS fast forward video shows frequent texting while driving. Is this legal in the US? Here in the Netherlands we have statistics showing car accidents up after a downward trends with texting while driving as the leading cause. It makes me wish people were back to using cellphones without carkits, at least people had more chance of eyes on the road.

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Post by 27182818284 »

jimbokun wrote: post #59
Klathmon wrote: post #31

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Musk isn't a PR guy, and I think a lot of people respect and like him for that. He makes crazy "moonshots", he has a vision and doesn't tone it down nearly as much as others do, and he's not afraid to be "wrong". The SpaceX community has a running joke about "elon time" being set to mars time, because his predictions and goals are almost always late (and are often under delivering), but I honestly respect that. Him a…

Musk is a genius at PR: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/945712432416137217 Saw this yesterday when someone threw together a quick article on all of the gushing responses from customers to this tweet. How can you say someone nicknamed "the real world Iron Man" is bad at PR?

He isn't a PR guy in the traditional sense at all.

He has been anointed as a neo-PR guy now because his style of doing things (like responding to requests on Twitter with "Done,") is breathtakingly refreshing compared to PR from actual trained PR agencies

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