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Introducing Surface Book 2

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Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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To be fair, if you're developer, you'll probably also want an i7 (since a lot of compilation tasks are highly parallel and the extra cores will help a lot)

That's right. But the i7 15-inch line starts from 2500 USD. I think lots of developers won't be able to afford at that price point.

Macbook Pro 15in starts at $2400 https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/15-inch

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> I recently left my macbook with the TSA after a frantic sprint through security. I was stuck with a windows 7 PC for the week. Care to elaborate more on what really happened?

Sounds like he forgot it after taking it out to be x-rayed,

Oh I thought that TSA didn't let him continue with his Macbook.

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So many negative comments just because it's Microsoft. If you don't like the OS, obviously this machine is not for you. Personally I think it looks nice, but I have a Surface Pro 2 that works just perfectly fine and I love it. The hardware on it is still good and I don't see any reason to upgrade.

I think that in itself speaks to the quality of the Surface device line... I myself have the first Surface Book, and I will likely upgrade to the 2 at some point, but not because my current device doesn't serve me well... I'm glad this thing is still working like new and I don't have huge urges to upgrade because I suddenly feel inferior, like some other tech companies try to pull...

EDIT: Don't work for MS, just a happy Surface owner.

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Now I wish I hadn't found the prices...

They're not exactly surprising, it's a successor to the SB1 and competitor with the rMBP.

Indeed, with a 3:2 aspect ratio touch screen and WACOM-level stylus input (via ntrig).

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Looks like a proper MacBook Pro replacement HW wise, but the OS is not one I would use for work.. =/ So attached to OSX for the past 6 years and cannot see me using a windows OS for work , but at home only for gaming. The new MacBook Pro has many flaws. Not sure how this compares in real use for it?

I imagine that it can run Linux, right — if not now, soon. I personally much prefer Linux to both macOS & Windows, although obviously tastes differ. I get a tiling WM with no cruft, I can completely control my UI, I can get work done quickly and easily.

I've been (also) working on Surface machines for a couple of years now, on Ubuntu.

They work OK on stock kernels since around 4.10 (but one must "backport" the linux-firmware package from Ubuntu Artful for having a working Wifi).

For a "non fancy" work usage (no stylus etc.; mostly keyboard and touchpad), the "only" nags are:

  - no sleep functionality
  - you can't permanently enable the Fn button, and worse, it seems that it disables itself regularly, and even worse, independenly of it being active or not, the light is off (it's not a defect; the light just turns itself off shortly after activation).
With those points in mind (point 2 is much more annoying than it reads), I think Surface machines are poor solutions for Linux users, unless the user needs to have tablet and laptop in a single machine. In fact, I'll buy the next-gen XPS 13 once it's available and mature.

On the other hand, Surface Books are the state of the art of large/work tablets. There's nothing remotely comparable: a 700gr 13.5" tablet is amazing (although the batteries don't last very long), and the fact that there is a 15" model is even more impressive.

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Any experiences with dual booting in to Linux on the Surface Book? I can imagine some things, like detaching not working optimally, but does it work at all?

Not a duel boot, but I regularly use the Windows Subsystem for Linux on my Surface Book for work and personal development, I've had no problems whatsoever. Works like a dream, and if you stick an X server on your computer, X applications pretty much just _work._ If you haven't yet, it's worth looking into.

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Looks like a proper MacBook Pro replacement HW wise, but the OS is not one I would use for work.. =/ So attached to OSX for the past 6 years and cannot see me using a windows OS for work , but at home only for gaming. The new MacBook Pro has many flaws. Not sure how this compares in real use for it?

It certainly feels like Mac OS is stuck in in-between land with iOS and OS X and it just feels a mess if your on a desktop with no track pad. The scroll bars are not mouse friendly. Windows 10 seems so much more stable and modern to Mac OS for the last two years. One job I use a Macbook and the OS just drives me nuts. The lack of decent short cuts drives is mind boggling.

You can use the Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad. Not sure what you mean by "last of decent short cuts," OS X is pretty keyboard friendly. Maybe just unfamiliarity?

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Interesting. Does anyone here actually use the dial, or know someone that does? Otherwise, it doesn't look like a compelling upgrade to my Surface Book (1) though. Even though I paid an arm a leg for it, I've grown to love it over time. Glad they are providing both 13" and 15" options though.

Are you comfortable with the touchpad of your Surface Book 1?

Not the OP, but I have a SB1 and the touchpad has had no problems. Works very well, and is natural for me to use.

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They are working on it, but in typical apple fashion they will not capitulate to existing standards.

Are you referring to any concrete facts/leaks/rumors when you say they are working on it? I can hardly see any movements from Apple in that direction.

No, just their pushing of metal and all the games demos they've been doing. Nothing concrete.
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