In other news, population still rising.
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Sperm Count in Western Men Has Dropped Over 50 Percent Since 1973, Paper Finds
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#132Perhaps the Nature is starting to fight back against explosion of human population and associated damage.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
As to (3) obesity, one of the most obvious contributing factors is the increased refined sugar consumption. People are poisoning their mind and bodies. And I know it's controversial and since everyone consumes sugar, everyone gets sensitive and defensive. However, in the 60's/70's nonalcoholic fatty liver disease did not exist in children nor did childhood type 2 diabeties, as to the former the first case in children…
> now 10% of US children have the disease. I don't think that number is correct. It appears to be more like 0.46 kids per 1,000, which is still high. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/03/diabet...
You referencing type 2 diabetes in children. The 10% is children with non alcoholic fatty liver disease, 1% of 2-4 year olds, 17% of 15-19 year olds, about 10% overall. But this is why it's so difficult to discuss, people get so defensive suggesting they are poisoning themselves with sugar, but once you suggest they are poisoning their own children civil discourse goes out the window.
But whether or not it's nonalcoholic fatty liver disease or type 2 diabetes in children, they simple truth is they could have been avoided in 100% of cases through diet. And as we know many type 2 diabetes patients would be able to get off insulin and diabetes medication through diet/lifestyle changes.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
As to (3) obesity, one of the most obvious contributing factors is the increased refined sugar consumption. People are poisoning their mind and bodies. And I know it's controversial and since everyone consumes sugar, everyone gets sensitive and defensive. However, in the 60's/70's nonalcoholic fatty liver disease did not exist in children nor did childhood type 2 diabeties, as to the former the first case in children…
> now 10% of US children have the disease. I don't think that number is correct. It appears to be more like 0.46 kids per 1,000, which is still high. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/03/diabet...
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
As to (3) obesity, one of the most obvious contributing factors is the increased refined sugar consumption. People are poisoning their mind and bodies. And I know it's controversial and since everyone consumes sugar, everyone gets sensitive and defensive. However, in the 60's/70's nonalcoholic fatty liver disease did not exist in children nor did childhood type 2 diabeties, as to the former the first case in children…
I can give you an anecdotal counter-example: when I was a kid I ate tons of sugar. Ice cream. Twinkies. Hi-C. Foot Loops. You name it. If it had sugar in it, I ate it. I was never overweight, nor was I particularly athletic. If anyone should have suffered negative consequences from eating too much sugar, it was me. But nope, I was perfectly svelte and healthy. I graduated high school in 1982.
Well I have a grandmother who lived to 92 years old and smoked heavily everyday, she never developed OCPD, carcinoma of the lungs, or any other health issues commonly related to cigarette smoking.
Again the first case of nonalcoholic fatty liver disease in a child was 1983, today 10% have it.
Compare the sugar content of the Hi-C, fruit loops and ice cream of the 70's and compare it with the products of today. And that's not to say if you were born 10 years later you would have non alcoholic fatty liver disease or childhood type 2 diabetes, but the point is those didn't exist at all in the 70's. And it's not exactly controversial, talk to any pediatrician, 100% of all childhood cases of type 2 diabetes and nonalcoholic fatty liver disease could have been avoided through diet.
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1965 is when birth control pills became legal.
It's also about the time that High Fructose Corn Syrup started to be shipped in bulk. HFCS-55 in particular became the dominant sweetener in soda sometime during the late 1970s. The late 70s was also the introduction of video games and home computers. A general explosion of electronic devices has permeated almost everywhere. Unleaded gas was introduced in 1974. What replaced lead as the antiknock agent? The space rac…
Sounds like these would be possible to back-test by comparing to other countries.
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
1965 is when birth control pills became legal.
It's also about the time that High Fructose Corn Syrup started to be shipped in bulk. HFCS-55 in particular became the dominant sweetener in soda sometime during the late 1970s. The late 70s was also the introduction of video games and home computers. A general explosion of electronic devices has permeated almost everywhere. Unleaded gas was introduced in 1974. What replaced lead as the antiknock agent? The space rac…
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can give you an anecdotal counter-example: when I was a kid I ate tons of sugar. Ice cream. Twinkies. Hi-C. Foot Loops. You name it. If it had sugar in it, I ate it. I was never overweight, nor was I particularly athletic. If anyone should have suffered negative consequences from eating too much sugar, it was me. But nope, I was perfectly svelte and healthy. I graduated high school in 1982.
Recently the type of sugar has been the subject of controversy/research. IIRC, most sugar used to be actual sugar, but sweets and soft drinks often contain high fructose corn syrup these days. Apparentlt our body can deal with glucose reasonably well, but sucks at dealing with fructose.
Sounds like a bunch of BS from the sugar/soft drink industry.
I'll suggest a more practical/simple explanation between the different glucose and fructose and the diseases I mention.
Fructose: primarily broken down in the liver.
Glucose: When blood glucose rises, the pancreas releases insulin.
Again I am talking about fatty liver disease and type 2 diabetes (insulin resistance), based on numbers alone it would seem children are more susceptible to developing fatty liver rather than insulin resistance, but that seems to be a very bizarre basis to suggest one is healthy. Moreover, even if a body doesn't develop insulin resistance, insulin itself is enlarging cells throughout the body, including fat cells, priming the body for obesity, which carries its own health issues. And again I only say sugar is a contributing factor to obesity, but no doubt insulin is a hell of a primer for obesity.
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One hypothesis, the rise of plastics really started to explode in to 40-50s and the first children to have grown up amidst that would have come of age starting in to 60s. Estrogen mimics are often emitted by plastics and can interfere with testosterone. It would be interesting to see if there are any differential analysis that can be done with more remote populations of humans which maybe don't have exposure.
Here's a theory that it's caused by jet fuel: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3587983/
Because many airborne pollutants are globally wide spread, studying a remote population might be doubly interesting, because one might be able to differentiate plastics exposure (theoretically lower in remote populations) from airborne pollutants (nearly the same exposure).
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
> now 10% of US children have the disease. I don't think that number is correct. It appears to be more like 0.46 kids per 1,000, which is still high. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/03/diabet...
You referencing type 2 diabetes in children. The 10% is children with non alcoholic fatty liver disease, 1% of 2-4 year olds, 17% of 15-19 year olds, about 10% overall. But this is why it's so difficult to discuss, people get so defensive suggesting they are poisoning themselves with sugar, but once you suggest they are poisoning their own children civil discourse goes out the window. But whether or not it's nonalcoh…
Thanks for the correction -- I misread the original comment. It was the end of a long day. :)
I agree that kids should not be given refined sugar. I had almost no sugar until I was a teenager. I had my first soda at about age 16 or 17. I consumed sugar as an adult, but eliminated it again about two years ago with great results. Eating refined sugar is irrational behavior -- it has no health benefits and is more like a recreational drug than food.