Louisiana prosecutors are using fake subpoenas to pressure witnesses to talk

Post by narag » Tue, May 02, 2017, 8:20 PM UTC

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As others have said, it's not the same outside the USA. There's an entertaining TV show in Spain that depicts all kind of police situations, from domestic disputes to assaulting a drug capo's stronghold. I can also attest by direct experience that the cool attitude they show on camera is the same one they have when nobody's recording. In another show, we see a Spanish policeman as an observer in Miami and making inte…

Out of curiosity, what are the titles of these shows? They sound cool!

Post by omginternets » Tue, May 02, 2017, 8:55 PM UTC

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Beyond the fact that it should be illegal, it's stupid . It's going to teach people that they might not have to comply with subpoenas because of all the fake ones. At the very least, people will be more inclined to wait until they have a lawyer before speaking with the police, which is the opposite of what they want. But it's also likely to cause people to ignore real subpoenas, which will not only hurt them but also…

I disagree. It won't really harm the prosecutors and police. They'll still be able to bring the full force of the law against anyone who violates an actual subpoena. In fact, it allows them to successfully prosecute a few more people (those who didn't respond to a subpoena). And stories about THAT will just terrify people and make them more likely to comply with requests from police and prosecutors (because they don'…

Post by duncan_bayne » Tue, May 02, 2017, 9:04 PM UTC

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> Only in America" is hyperbole. Yes. Yes it is. > The advice is still sound in any part of the world: don't call the cops if you don't want someone to get arrested. The advice very much isn't sound in any part of the world, and I suggest you go live in a place with a friendly police force for a while. Your statistics prove nothing. You're taking a random country and asserting that the statistics for that country are…

Unfortunately it is the same in most of other part of the world, it is dangerous to assume that police is your friend.

Post by pasbesoin » Tue, May 02, 2017, 10:46 PM UTC

Post by tracker1 » Wed, May 03, 2017, 4:10 AM UTC

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I don't know the answer to your question, but let me just point out how awesome the "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree" doctrine is. There are very few countries where that idea is as much a force as it is in the US–it's theoretically possible, but courts often shy away from applying it. I think it's a testament to the integrity of the US court system that they routinely let people off the hook, even when it is proven that…

The only people let go on a technicality are those that can afford a good attorney. People with a public defender will almost always plead out because their overworked and under paid attorney advises them too. The public defenders have hundreds of clients a year and are often only able to provide each client with a day or so of attention. If you are poor and accused of a crime odds are you are going to be found guilt…