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Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by int_19h »

eridius wrote: post #110
philliphaydon wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless of course you touch type in which case you end up looking at the keyboard now....

No you don't. Why would you? Touch-typing relies on you knowing where each key is, and the Escape key is still in the same place it always was.

In my experience (with Thinkpad X1 Carbon, which also had a capacitive touch strip for function keys), it doesn't actually work that way. Your muscle memory might involve hitting the key away from the center or at a slight angle, which registers properly on the usual keyboard, but is sufficiently ambiguous with touch that sometimes it does the wrong thing, or sometimes it does nothing at all.

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by stephen_g »

FireBeyond wrote: post #122
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #98

“Reduced Motion Media Query” The extents to which Apple goes for people with disabilities is as baffling as it is commendable. I can’t think of another company in any industry that does so much.

Unless you're a blind user with a Touchbar Mac...

Actually not at all, Apple has already thought about that: https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT207258

There's VoiceOver support for the blind, zooming for visually impaired, etc. all implemented already.

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by iampims »

r00fus wrote: post #125
eriknstr wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Google chose to fork Webkit to create Blink Wasn't this because the amount of work required to co-operate with the WebKit project made it not worth it for Google?

I find it more likely that Apple and Google's views on key topics (e.g. privacy/advertising) were diametrically opposed (not to mention Android vs iOS). Note: Chrome exists for many OSs - Safari is only found on Apple ones.

They had Safari for windows at some point…

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by pbreit »

macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

The main reason I use Chrome over Safari is accounts. Has anyone heard if Safari has any plans to add profiles/accounts?

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by nkkollaw »

madeofpalk wrote: post #77
nkkollaw wrote: post #75

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There is no solution to that many tabs. Not getting it right with 5-6 open seems hard even if you try.

I have no difficulty understanding what my 7 open tabs are... http://i.imgur.com/LB7BqOT.png But that's just me I guess. To each is their own.

If there were colored icons in each tab, you'd be able to figure out which tab is which at a glance, without reading every single title until you find what you're looking for.

It's so obvious that icons are easier than text—and this is why you see icons everywhere–that I have a hard time understanding how anyone would favor this solution. However, of course I have no interest in convincing you to switch browser, it's definitely a matter of preference.

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by nkkollaw »

iand wrote: post #87
nkkollaw wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no solution to that many tabs. Not getting it right with 5-6 open seems hard even if you try.

vertical tabs down the left side (with horizontal text)

Why not more than one row of tabs? That would seem more logical.

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by daenney »

rtpg wrote: post #88
macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

I have a lot of small extensions I use with Chrome, but that list's getting smaller everyday. The dev tools are not the same, but they're getting pretty close. My main gripe with Safari is that its release schedule is basically tied to OS releases. Ever since Chrome, I've come to love continuous releases. It's extremely satisfying to know that your browser will receive those important security updates quickly. With S…

> It's extremely satisfying to know that your browser will receive those important security updates quickly.

Apple has shipped plenty of Safari security updates outside of the OS update cycle. Feature releases of Safari are tied to the OS update cycle, not security updates.

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by daenney »

bananabill wrote: post #62
macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

Every time I've tried safari I've found it really slow. Also, I can't browse without Vimium.

That extension is called Vimari[0] for Safari. It's literally the first thing to show up if you search for "Safari vimium".

[0]: https://github.com/guyht/vimari

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by koalalorenzo »

pbreit wrote: post #134
macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

The main reason I use Chrome over Safari is accounts. Has anyone heard if Safari has any plans to add profiles/accounts?

I think their point of view is to use the OS Accounts, (Talking about macOS) where the browser is focusing only on specific things, while the OS takes care of things like "Accounts".

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by toyg »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #98

“Reduced Motion Media Query” The extents to which Apple goes for people with disabilities is as baffling as it is commendable. I can’t think of another company in any industry that does so much.

I expect that's a function of their traditional position in the educational market. That market is extra-sensitive to accessibility issues, for legal and practical reasons.
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