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But now you have to run a ZNC server as well - it's a lot more work for a very simple feature.
It's not "very simple" - it's just that with Slack, someone else is running ZNC for you. Chat apps don't magically "just work" - either you run your own infrastructure, or use someone else's.
IRC v3
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Re: IRC v3
#132I am a long time IRC user (irssi is my 'daily driver'), but I'm pretty sure IRCv3 is called "Slack".
Eugh. You could at least choose an open standard like Matrix. http://matrix.org/
Re: IRC v3
#133They've been working on this for years and I'm seeing very little of it. And beyond that, it's missing everything we take for granted nowadays: scrollback, keeping note of where you were and media sharing. Yeah media sharing can be done with, what's it called, CTCP? That's just piping stuff through a short message service, like Twitter or DNS. It doesn't properly display media either, but it allows for small file tra…
Re: IRC v3
#134I used IRC for over 10 years, but after using Slack for 1 it just felt outdated to me. Offline messages and simulatnous logins from multiple places are just two features I was missing in IRC and didn't even know till I had them, haha. But yeah, IRC networks just worked as message broker and not as databases, so I never thought about it.
Slack isn't an IRC replacement. It's business trying to embrace, extend, and extinguish the IRC protocol so they can capture the business market that uses IRC and collect rent.
Re: IRC v3
#135I run an XMPP server for myself and a few friend and have had no end to the trouble with it getting OTR or any level of encryption working reliably before friends lose their interest. Please, someone, just offer us an open source slack clone that runs off on a R-pi and has a walk through wizard to enable the 99% of typical install requirements. Even as someone who works in the industry, I dont have time to learn the…
Re: IRC v3
#136I second a comment made below regarding https://matrix.org/ . I've used IRC for years and still use it almost daily - but come on Mosh + tmux + ec2 just to have permanent chat history? I seriously can't advocate this crap to anyone in 2016. It's too little, too late.
Re: IRC v3
#137I used IRC for over 10 years, but after using Slack for 1 it just felt outdated to me. Offline messages and simulatnous logins from multiple places are just two features I was missing in IRC and didn't even know till I had them, haha. But yeah, IRC networks just worked as message broker and not as databases, so I never thought about it.
I use ZNC, so logging in from multiple places works well.
Re: IRC v3
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I literally can't tell if this is satire.
It's not, but your comment made me smile. You seem to feel differently. Go ahead, tell me why it shouldn't be the case.
Re: IRC v3
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That's why I use Mattermost, which Slack Without the Suck™. It's free, fast, easy to use, visually appealing, supports PostgreSQL — what more could I ask for? Well, a native Android client. But other than that, what more could I ask for?
Compatibility with a real protocol, IRC, instead of just a marginal bridge. Mattermost will still splinter communities.
The whole reason the Slacks and Hipchats and Discords of the world exist is that IRC is a terribly limited protocol that many people have tried to hang enhanced functionality on top of and none have succeeded.
Personally, I'm in favor of letting the better product win. IRC has been objectively superseded in nearly every way that matters.
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I use KiwiIRC each and everyday. It's one of the nicest looking and easiest to setup web frontend for my hybrid-ircd setup. Sadly it's just a small group of friends and an OLD eggdrop bot that runs a crusty old megahal.mod as entertainment. I haven't found anything that runs as well and can create humerous replies since then. Hopefully the old code will continue to compile for awhile. Anyway, I strayed off topic. I t…
Bit off-topic, but Eggdrop was the very first thing I ever compiled from source WAY back in the later 1990's. I figured out how to hack together a (absolutely terrible) TCL script to monitor #fatefiles on EFNet for messages by certain nicks (a few XDCC bots) and echo them to another private channel. It was trash but it worked. One of my earliest experiences that I can remember with any sort of real code. Ahhhh, the g…