Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud • Hacker News Board

Re: Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud

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Post by kentonv » Fri, Jun 03, 2016, 4:27 PM UTC

tinix wrote: post #128

toggle wrote: post #84

I used OwnCloud for a while and never had any problems with it, but it seemed like overkill for my use. I didn't have multiple users and I wasn't using it to share files with anyone -- just syncing files between my own devices. I started using Sandstorm[0] for my personal server, and there's an app for it called Davros[1], which implements the OwnCloud protocol. It doesn't really do a good job of advertising that fac…

It's not an "owncloud protocol"... It's called WebDAV and it's a web standard[0], like HTTP. [0] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4918 There are literally 100s and 100s of these tools... Nothing is special about OwnCloud, or Sandstorm, in this case, to support interoperability. It's pretty obvious, IMO, that it supports WebDAV since "dav" is right there in the name.

To be fair, in order to work with the ownCloud client, Davros had to implement a few ownCloud-specific extensions. But basically, yes, it's WebDAV.

Re: Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud

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Post by g1dv5ek8ctfymm0 » Sat, Jun 04, 2016, 5:48 PM UTC

Owncloud is NOT a backup solution, it is a remote access/sharing solution. At least one client syncing to an account on the Owncloud server should have an incremental backup solution. My personal setup is that my OSX clients backup to a Time Machine. Easy peasy. If I have a server-side failure, I keep motoring on, albeit without remote access/sharing until I get the server fixed. If I have a client-side failure, I can restore to a prior moment in time off the Time Machine or sync to a new client off of Owncloud depending on the nature of the failure.

Re: Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud

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Post by mcherm » Mon, Jun 06, 2016, 3:52 PM UTC

CaptSpify wrote: post #111

mcherm wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Doing backups right is just really hard. Which, I think, was alexggordon's point. That he no longer wanted to manage the data himself because it was a hard problem, better managed by teams of professionals who have the time to do things like verify backups because they can amortize the cost of that effort over tens of thousands of customers.

But unless you give them access to decrypt the data, you can't trust them to make sure it's valid. It doesn't matter how good they are at their job.

One can confirm that the backup restores byte-for-byte the same data that was archived. That would be sufficient for me!

Re: Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud

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Post by adrianlmm » Wed, Jun 08, 2016, 11:55 PM UTC

botw wrote: post #129

adrianlmm wrote: post #70

I implemented Owncloud in my workplace, but we had one problem that made us uninstall it and create our own solution in Dart, the problem was that when you share a file it doesn't preserve the file path extructure and that was very important for us.

extructure? why is that important?

*structure, becuase every folder has meaning, if they share the document "law_2016.pdf" that is in the folder "/Enterprise_1/documents/laws/info" the folder structure has information about the context of the file in this case, they now is a document of law of the Enterprise 1.